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    Thousands march in New York

    Thousands of demonstrators have marched peacefully through the New York borough of Staten Island in protest at the death of a black man at the hands of a white police officer.
    Eric Garner, 43. died in July after being placed in a chokehold as police arrested him for allegedly selling untaxed cigarettes.
    The march was led by the Rev Al Sharpton and relatives of Mr Garner.
    Some of the protesters in New York displayed banners saying "Black lives matter" while others demanded justice in the cases of both Mr Garner and Mr Brown, as a large police contingent looked on.
    BBC News - Thousands march in New York over police chokehold death
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    Re: Thousands march in New York

    Al Sharpton is a busy little beaver these days.

    I think they should just get rid of the police departments altogether. Its sounds as if they are out of control and men are just dying every minute because of them.

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    Re: Thousands march in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Feltser View Post
    Thousands of demonstrators have marched peacefully through the New York borough of Staten Island in protest at the death of a black man at the hands of a white police officer.
    Eric Garner, 43. died in July after being placed in a chokehold as police arrested him for allegedly selling untaxed cigarettes.
    The march was led by the Rev Al Sharpton and relatives of Mr Garner.
    Some of the protesters in New York displayed banners saying "Black lives matter" while others demanded justice in the cases of both Mr Garner and Mr Brown, as a large police contingent looked on.
    BBC News - Thousands march in New York over police chokehold death
    The US has a bad habit of trying to dictate to other countries about human rights abuses.
    Physician heal thyself

    A New York grand jury is considering criminal charges against Mr Pantaleo.

    A medical examiner has ruled his death a homicide.

    Mr Garner's death provoked an outcry, especially after a video of Officer Pantaleo placing him in a chokehold became public.

    Chokeholds are banned by the New York Police Department and Commissioner William Bratton has ordered an internal review of training.

    Considering charges?? No wonder they are marching.
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    Re: Thousands march in New York

    Last week in Utah a white teen was killed by a black police officer. Am I supposed to be organizing a demonstration or something?

    The problem with the "Physicians heal thyself" statement is it ignores that there are 750,000 uniformed police officers in the US and even if only 1 in 2,054 officers are bad that is still 1 news story a day.

    The countries we lecture on human rights brutalize their populations as a matter of policy.
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    Re: Thousands march in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Feltser View Post
    Thousands of demonstrators have marched peacefully through the New York borough of Staten Island in protest at the death of a black man at the hands of a white police officer.
    Eric Garner, 43. died in July after being placed in a chokehold as police arrested him for allegedly selling untaxed cigarettes.
    The march was led by the Rev Al Sharpton and relatives of Mr Garner.
    Some of the protesters in New York displayed banners saying "Black lives matter" while others demanded justice in the cases of both Mr Garner and Mr Brown, as a large police contingent looked on.
    BBC News - Thousands march in New York over police chokehold death
    The US has a bad habit of trying to dictate to other countries about human rights abuses.
    Physician heal thyself
    Death is a little much for selling contraband.

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    Re: Thousands march in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Al Sharpton is a busy little beaver these days.

    I think they should just get rid of the police departments altogether. Its sounds as if they are out of control and men are just dying every minute because of them.
    You mean fewer police and more carry?

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    Re: Thousands march in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Last week in Utah a white teen was killed by a black police officer. Am I supposed to be organizing a demonstration or something?
    Utah protesters demand justice for Dillon Taylor, others killed by police | The Salt Lake Tribune

    Protesters lined the sidewalk across the street from Salt Lake City police headquarters Monday afternoon to express their outrage at a spate of recent police shootings of unarmed people.

    Among the demonstrators were friends of Dillon Taylor, the 20-year-old man who was shot dead by Salt Lake City police outside a 7-Eleven last Monday. Police were responding to a report of a man with a gun, but Taylor’s supporters say he was unarmed.

    They are protesting that and rightfully so.
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    Re: Thousands march in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    There is a common theme in all of this. From the story you linked...

    "At the time of Taylor’s shooting, court documents show he had a $25,000 bench warrant for a probation violation in connection with felony robbery and obstructing justice convictions. But Marissa Martinez, whose sister used to date Taylor, said Taylor had turned over a new leaf."

    "The bottom line problem is police have no accountability, and that gives them absolute power," said Scott Simons, whose daughter Kelly was fatally shot by police in January 2013. Kelly Simons — a suspect in a series of armed robberies — was killed by an officer when she tried to run him down with her pickup during an attempt to arrest her. Salt Lake County District Attorney Sim Gill has ruled the shooting legally justified.
    "Every time we hear that someone has been shot by police, it reopens old wounds," Simons said. "We miss our daughter. She was a big part of our life. It hurts every day."
    But police say Kelly Simons exchanged gunfire with a Murray officer following a Saturday armed robbery, and days later attempted to run down a Joint Criminal Apprehension Team (JCAT) officer with her pickup truck. That final alleged act of violence prompted officers to shoot her to death.
    Scott Simons said his daughter spent her days painting murals, and supported herself by doing odd jobs for friends and by renting out herhome. But police said that since mid-December they suspect Kelly earned her income by robbing as many as nine businesses with alleged accomplice 40-year-old Sandra Chotia-Thompson, who was arrested Wednesday night.

    Brown had only minutes before his shooting had thrown a man half his size around like a rag doll. Garner was being arrested for the same crime he had been caught and convicted of on multiple occasions...selling untaxed cigarettes...when rather than comply with police orders he resisted arrest and they brought him down. He died because he was a morbidly obese man willfully resisting arrest and had an asthma attack, not because a cop put him in a 'choke hold'. Black, white, men, women, and New York to Utah...there are two things common in every incident. Police involvement and people with a criminal history refusing compliance with the law. Can police involvement change? Sure. Ive seen video of instances and read accounts where the officer response was CLEARLY abusive. Ive been involved in those incidents personally. Cops are people and there are good people and bad people and some of those bad people become cops. But...the incidents of police response USUALLY come when someone doing something they shouldnt be doing fights the consequences.

    Do you live in fear of law enforcement? I dont. I occasionally speed. If I get pulled over, I am polite, courteous, respectful. I DO NOT treat law enforcement officers with as much politeness and respect as I do fast food drive through clerks, but then, hey...they are making my food and I cant watch them, so you can bet Im kissing their ass. The point is, I dont have to kiss the cops ass...all I have to do is be respectful and I am likely not getting a ticket and if I DO it is because I have done something to deserve it.

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    Re: Thousands march in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Last week in Utah a white teen was killed by a black police officer. Am I supposed to be organizing a demonstration or something.
    The cops are claiming that the kid was going for his cellphone and it looked like a gun...
    Ever seen a cell phone that looked like a gun?
    Me either.
    If you feel that this shooting is not justified maybe you should organize a demonstration or something.
    You have every right to.

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    Re: Thousands march in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post

    Wow, looks like thirteen whole people showed up!

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