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The last COUNTRY to attack us was Japan at Pearl Harbor. Your point is?
So it is possible.
The last COUNTRY to attack us was Japan at Pearl Harbor. Your point is?
I'd like to see us, as well as the rest of the free world agree to actually neutralize the threat that Iran is racing toward, and I'd like to see the region pitch in on that. The action is clear, allowing Iran to continue to hold on to any capability to develop a nuclear weapon is out of the question, their duplicity, and tactics suggest that they are playing the world as they march forward.
As far as controlling what other countries do, I would say don't be naive. We not only have the responsibility to do so, but the burden of making the right call for the sake of the world. That you and others don't want us to have that responsibility means little as to the fact that we already do.
So it is possible.
The last COUNTRY to attack us was Japan at Pearl Harbor. Your point is?
No, that would be Afghanistan.
No it isn't.
Back then Japan had the military capability to attack America because their technological and military strength were at a point they could seriously challenge eachother.
Iran has absolutely no military capability whatsoever to attack the US.
I'm surprised a former member of the military doesn't understand that most nations simply don't have the force deployment capabilities that the USA does.
It's funny how whenever the conversation turns to threats to the US there are people so myopic in their thinking that that can't argue on any level other than direct naval engagements and invasion.
I'd like to see us, as well as the rest of the free world agree to actually neutralize the threat that Iran is racing toward, and I'd like to see the region pitch in on that. The action is clear, allowing Iran to continue to hold on to any capability to develop a nuclear weapon is out of the question, their duplicity, and tactics suggest that they are playing the world as they march forward.
As far as controlling what other countries do, I would say don't be naive. We not only have the responsibility to do so, but the burden of making the right call for the sake of the world. That you and others don't want us to have that responsibility means little as to the fact that we already do.
Al Qaeda is an extra-national force and regardless of their status under the Taliban Government (which didn't even control the whole country) Afghanistan as a unitary body never attacked the USA.
Good morning, CJ. :2wave:
Good point! :thumbs: We have been objecting, and we are ignored! Most sane people all over the world just want to live in peace - but decisions are made by those who don't always have their best interests in mind. They just don't seem to give a damn about collateral damage, but it does make enemies of those who suffer, and that's a given. I'd feel the same way! When pissing contests between leaders is allowed to become a game of "one-upmanship," look for trouble ahead for the little people - always!
I remember Reagan saying it wasn't the worlds place to do that. I wonder how he'd be seen today. But, outside of strikes or war, what do you think the world can do?
Not possible now is it? We are letting ISIS run wild in Iraq, and we are demonstrating that we are timid in our ME policy at present, so I ask again, who do you suggest?
The only possible way Iran could attack the USA is if they did develop nuclear weapons (and have the missile capability to launch an ICBM) in which case their entire country will be reduced to rubble).
Or they sponsor terror attacks in which case their entire country will be reduced to rubble.
That is what a lot of people were saying pre-9/11. Pre-9/11 nobody considered locking the door to the pilot cabin of passenger jets. That doesn't mean that that is how we should be doing it today.
Do you suggest we invade Iraq so you can complain that we invaded Iraq?
We have porous borders and lax internal security (because we are a free country) that are easily exploitable by anyone.
Well having said that, if there were as many terrorists out there as we are convinced there are, surely we would have been attacked far more by now than we have been?
When their leadership preaches death to America and the west? Yes, we should be concerned about every weapon they create.
Hey look, a comedy central skit from a self proclaimed fart comic. We should heed its expert advice. :roll:
Conservatives in this thread reminded me of that bit.
Iran isn't run by comic book villains. They don't just do evil for the sake of doing evil. They don't stand to gain anything by attacking the United States.
I'm sure he has some other witty zingers about people who opposed leaving Iraq and who called Russia our chief geopolitical foe, too.
You should also do some reading on the particular sect of Shi'ism that rules Iran.
Iran and ISIS have the same goal, the return of the Caliphate and the Twelfth Imam. Iran simply thinks that the best way to achieve it is to first get nuclear weapons. Either way they believe the only way to achieve the end goal is through bloodshed.
Look at the Islam.org list of the major signs of the last days before the return of al-Mahdi:
Major Signs of the Last Day
Read it carefully. These signs, unlike the Christian prophecy of end days, require Islamic armies to take an active role in conquering the world, and the last stages are a holy fire that starts in Yemen and moves across the middle east to Syria.
This, they believe, is there duty to bring about.
Those would be the comic book villain motives I'm talking about.
Iran sees that nations with nuclear weapons don't get invaded. They know they can't stand up to western nations in a conventional military conflict, but nuclear weapons can make an invasion of Iran too costly for any nation to undertake. Even getting nukes, Iran isn't stupid enough to use them on the United States, because that is literally the fastest way possible to get your nation wiped off the map.
No nation on the planet stands to gain anything by attacking us.
Problem is that by the time it becomes too real for you to deny any longer, it's too late...Good plan.
Nero fiddles as Rome burns....How pathetic is this?