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    Re: Iran unveils new missiles, drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    No it isn't.

    Back then Japan had the military capability to attack America because their technological and military strength were at a point they could seriously challenge eachother.

    Iran has absolutely no military capability whatsoever to attack the US.

    I'm surprised a former member of the military doesn't understand that most nations simply don't have the force deployment capabilities that the USA does.

    It's funny how whenever the conversation turns to threats to the US there are people so myopic in their thinking that that can't argue on any level other than direct naval engagements and invasion.
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    Re: Iran unveils new missiles, drones

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    It's funny how whenever the conversation turns to threats to the US there are people so myopic in their thinking that that can't argue on any level other than direct naval engagements and invasion.
    The only possible way Iran could attack the USA is if they did develop nuclear weapons (and have the missile capability to launch an ICBM) in which case their entire country will be reduced to rubble).

    Or they sponsor terror attacks in which case their entire country will be reduced to rubble.

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    Re: Iran unveils new missiles, drones

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I'd like to see us, as well as the rest of the free world agree to actually neutralize the threat that Iran is racing toward, and I'd like to see the region pitch in on that. The action is clear, allowing Iran to continue to hold on to any capability to develop a nuclear weapon is out of the question, their duplicity, and tactics suggest that they are playing the world as they march forward.

    As far as controlling what other countries do, I would say don't be naive. We not only have the responsibility to do so, but the burden of making the right call for the sake of the world. That you and others don't want us to have that responsibility means little as to the fact that we already do.
    I remember Reagan saying it wasn't the worlds place to do that. I wonder how he'd be seen today. But, outside of strikes or war, what do you think the world can do?

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    Re: Iran unveils new missiles, drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Al Qaeda is an extra-national force and regardless of their status under the Taliban Government (which didn't even control the whole country) Afghanistan as a unitary body never attacked the USA.
    That is a lot of contortions you need to make your claim. Al Qaeda was an integral part of the Taliban ruling structure of Afghanistan as of the 9/11 attacks. Al Qaeda provided the militant muscle to the Taliban leadership, and Mullah Omar, the leader of the Taliban and bin Laden were close comrades. AQ and the Taliban in Afghanistan were part of the same governmental structure by 2001.
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    Re: Iran unveils new missiles, drones

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, CJ.

    Good point! We have been objecting, and we are ignored! Most sane people all over the world just want to live in peace - but decisions are made by those who don't always have their best interests in mind. They just don't seem to give a damn about collateral damage, but it does make enemies of those who suffer, and that's a given. I'd feel the same way! When pissing contests between leaders is allowed to become a game of "one-upmanship," look for trouble ahead for the little people - always!
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    Re: Iran unveils new missiles, drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I remember Reagan saying it wasn't the worlds place to do that. I wonder how he'd be seen today. But, outside of strikes or war, what do you think the world can do?
    That is what a lot of people were saying pre-9/11. Pre-9/11 nobody considered locking the door to the pilot cabin of passenger jets. That doesn't mean that that is how we should be doing it today.
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    Re: Iran unveils new missiles, drones

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not possible now is it? We are letting ISIS run wild in Iraq, and we are demonstrating that we are timid in our ME policy at present, so I ask again, who do you suggest?
    Do you suggest we invade Iraq so you can complain that we invaded Iraq?

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    Re: Iran unveils new missiles, drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    The only possible way Iran could attack the USA is if they did develop nuclear weapons (and have the missile capability to launch an ICBM) in which case their entire country will be reduced to rubble).

    Or they sponsor terror attacks in which case their entire country will be reduced to rubble.
    That isn't true. We have porous borders and lax internal security (because we are a free country) that are easily exploitable by anyone. I think war with Iran is inevitable. But for now Iran is happy to just fun proxy wars against the west and claim ignorance whenever they are caught backing radical jihadists. They were very active in the Iraqi insurgency, and fund Hamas among many other radical groups.

    There is no doubt we would win a war with Iran, but that isn't to say that they won't make it hurt in the process. The longer it goes like this the more it will hurt.
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    Re: Iran unveils new missiles, drones

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    That is what a lot of people were saying pre-9/11. Pre-9/11 nobody considered locking the door to the pilot cabin of passenger jets. That doesn't mean that that is how we should be doing it today.
    What about 9/11 changes that. No nation attacked us, no weapons or mass destruction were used, no nukes. So where does the leap come in at?

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    Re: Iran unveils new missiles, drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Do you suggest we invade Iraq so you can complain that we invaded Iraq?
    You won't find many people complaining if the President sends troops into Iraq to end ISIS. I certainly wouldn't.
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