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    Re: Boko Haram declares 'Islamic state' in northern Nigeria

    Has Obama or Kerry gotten around to declaring Boko Haram a terrorist group yet?
    And what about the hundreds of girls abducted...what's the status on them?

    Nigeria....another Obama foreign policy screw-up.

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    Re: Boko Haram declares 'Islamic state' in northern Nigeria

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    In the absence of a viable Nigerian government (in this case, I mean one that makes decisions based on information and evidence, is not oblivious to developments within Nigeria, and is willing and able to accept governance responsibility) and competent Nigerian army, there's probably very little actionable intelligence on which the U.S. can act. The U.S. does not have the necessary infrastructure in place to avoid relying on the Nigerian authorities. Hence, months have passed since the seizure of the girls. It is probably increasingly unlikely that they are in a single group at this time. A few have escaped and some additional ones may escape, but the future is probably quite bleak for the others.

    The larger geopolitical story is that a major oil producer continues to become less and less stable. Although the collapse of Nigeria's government is not imminent, its ability to function and its ability to exercise jurisdiction continues to erode. The absence of a competent military force facilitates the forces of destabilization. In the longer-run, the risks associated with Nigeria may well begin to raise the costs of oil production there (financial and periodic disruptions).
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    Re: Boko Haram declares 'Islamic state' in northern Nigeria

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    Has Obama or Kerry gotten around to declaring Boko Haram a terrorist group yet?
    And what about the hundreds of girls abducted...what's the status on them?

    Nigeria....another Obama foreign policy screw-up.
    What should Obama have done differently regarding Nigeria? Be specific.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Boko Haram declares 'Islamic state' in northern Nigeria

    This is what voting democrat gets you.

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    Re: Boko Haram declares 'Islamic state' in northern Nigeria

    And voting for Bush-43 opened Pandora's Box in the first place.
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    Re: Boko Haram declares 'Islamic state' in northern Nigeria

    Heya DS......I was wrong on that call. These guys did declare themselves a Caliphate too. Hard to believe with just one Town really under their control. Whats all the terrorists going to declare each of themselves a Caliphate?



    Boko Haram Becomes the Latest Terror Group to Declare an Islamic Caliphate.....

    Another month, another Islamic caliphate. All eyes may be on ISIL in Iraq, which has recently undergone a rebranding as the Islamic State, but Nigeria's Boko Haram is reportedly getting into the caliphate game as well.

    Boko Haram Becomes the Latest Terror Group to Declare an Islamic Caliphate

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    Re: Boko Haram declares 'Islamic state' in northern Nigeria

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What should Obama have done differently regarding Nigeria? Be specific.
    When the girls were kidnapped, US military specialists should've been sent in. 1 or 2 SEAL teams could've found the girls and fragged those pedophile-worshipping freaks before a week had passed.

    But instead, he had the First Cow do a photo-op with a Hashtag sign.

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    Re: Boko Haram declares 'Islamic state' in northern Nigeria

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    When the girls were kidnapped, US military specialists should've been sent in. 1 or 2 SEAL teams could've found the girls and fragged those pedophile-worshipping freaks before a week had passed.

    But instead, he had the First Cow do a photo-op with a Hashtag sign.
    I know this may come as a shock to you, but there's a lot more to "sending in a couple SEAL teams" than just giving the order to go - the planning and familiarity with the location is nine-tenths of the mission. In order to kill OBL, they built a mock-up of the entire freaking compound where OBL lived and trained their assaults on it for weeks...and still If Boko Haram keeps moving from location to location, this becomes next to impossible.

    Furthermore, just because SEALS are the best in the world at what they do doesn't make them invincible - even if we rescued all those girls, losing even one SEAL turns it into a foreign relations (and domestic political) fiasco. Frankly, if we lost even one SEAL doing so, the political Right would claim it's yet another Obama disaster and call for his impeachment/beheading/drawing-and-quartering.
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    Re: Boko Haram declares 'Islamic state' in northern Nigeria

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    When the girls were kidnapped, US military specialists should've been sent in. 1 or 2 SEAL teams could've found the girls and fragged those pedophile-worshipping freaks before a week had passed.

    But instead, he had the First Cow do a photo-op with a Hashtag sign.
    Congratulations. Dozens of dead hostages. Great call, roadvirus.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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