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    Two rallies, one racial divide over Ferguson shooting

    As the crow flies the two rallies held Saturday afternoon over the fatal shooting of an unarrmed black teen by a white policeman were about 10 miles (16 km) apart, but the racial divide that separated them made that distance seem infinitely greater.

    Read the article here: http://news.yahoo.com/two-rallies-on...004209133.html


    Anyone who thinks that there's no racism and no racial division in the USA could learn a lot in Ferguson, Mo.

    But they'd have to keep their eyes, ears and minds open.




    I predict that some people in the USA will learn nothing from the Ferguson tragedy and similar events because they have their eyes, ears and minds closed.
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    Re: Two rallies, one racial divide over Ferguson shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    As the crow flies the two rallies held Saturday afternoon over the fatal shooting of an unarrmed black teen by a white policeman were about 10 miles (16 km) apart, but the racial divide that separated them made that distance seem infinitely greater.

    Read the article here: http://news.yahoo.com/two-rallies-on...004209133.html


    Anyone who thinks that there's no racism and no racial division in the USA could learn a lot in Ferguson, Mo.

    But they'd have to keep their eyes and ears open.
    You are right... The black protestors are marching, looting and rioting because of a white cop shooting a black man who just robbed a store... A shooting that they couldn't care less if it was justified or not.

    While the white protestors, from a bar that police officers frequent, are protesting in support of "An officer that has abided by the law has been tried and found guilty without the evidence," said Laura, 48, who carried a placard on the sidewalk in front of the bar that read, "It's not about black or white, it's about rule of law."

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    Re: Two rallies, one racial divide over Ferguson shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    As the crow flies the two rallies held Saturday afternoon over the fatal shooting of an unarrmed black teen by a white policeman were about 10 miles (16 km) apart, but the racial divide that separated them made that distance seem infinitely greater.

    Read the article here: http://news.yahoo.com/two-rallies-on...004209133.html

    Anyone who thinks that there's no racism and no racial division in the USA could learn a lot in Ferguson, Mo.

    But they'd have to keep their eyes and ears open.
    There is certainly racism. But possibly the worst of it is in the heads of indigenous Black Americans. Forget about the President and the Secretaries of State et al. for a moment. A number of studies have found that Black does not mean you cannot succeed. There are a number to be found in a short google. Here is one short remainder Why the All-Ivy League Story Stirs Up Tensions Between African Immigrants and Black Americans - The Wire but the scientific literature abounds.

    I am not trying to point fingers and am quite sure that there are real jerks out there. But we may as a society be more successful at reducing the racial/economic problems, if we understand, that a major aspect is the self fulfilling nature of the beast.

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    Re: Two rallies, one racial divide over Ferguson shooting

    From what I saw, and granted that I didn't see much of the other protest... one is demanding "the head" of the cop, and the other is only demanding that the cop get his right to be considered innocent UNTIL proven guilty. I may be wrong, but that's the way I saw it.
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    Re: Two rallies, one racial divide over Ferguson shooting

    Maybe if people would stop talking about it and stop going on and on and on and on and on about racism...it would eventually disappear.

    The people to blame for racism are the people that refuse to stop looking at people as different 'races' just because of the melanin in their skin; and just looked upon everyone as people that happen to have darker/lighter complexion...it's just a physical characteristic, like height or weight or hair color.

    Why can 'black' people not just be looked upon as dark skinned instead of attributing an entirely different 'race' to people with that physical characteristic?

    We don't we call tall people a different race? Or blonde people? Or people with big noses?

    Why skin color (melanin content)?


    It's devisive and childish to do so, IMO.

    Calling someone an entirely different 'race' strictly because they have more or less melanin in their skin is asinine in the extremis, IMO.
    And I do not care if it is in the dictionary...it is still asinine to me.
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    Re: Two rallies, one racial divide over Ferguson shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    As the crow flies the two rallies held Saturday afternoon over the fatal shooting of an unarrmed black teen by a white policeman were about 10 miles (16 km) apart, but the racial divide that separated them made that distance seem infinitely greater.

    Read the article here: http://news.yahoo.com/two-rallies-on...004209133.html


    Anyone who thinks that there's no racism and no racial division in the USA could learn a lot in Ferguson, Mo.

    But they'd have to keep their eyes, ears and minds open.




    I predict that some people in the USA will learn nothing from the Ferguson tragedy and similar events because they have their eyes, ears and minds closed.
    Those who are concerned about racial divisions learn absolutely nothing from what has been happening the past couple of weeks in Ferguson, Missouri. Unless, of course, you're interested in how to distort and gin up racial tension and strife for TV ratings and political gains.

    As long as America has a cottage industry that survives solely on worsening the racial divide, you won't have progress and you won't learn a damn thing.
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    Re: Two rallies, one racial divide over Ferguson shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    There is certainly racism. But possibly the worst of it is in the heads of indigenous Black Americans. Forget about the President and the Secretaries of State et al. for a moment. A number of studies have found that Black does not mean you cannot succeed. There are a number to be found in a short google. Here is one short remainder Why the All-Ivy League Story Stirs Up Tensions Between African Immigrants and Black Americans - The Wire but the scientific literature abounds. I am not trying to point fingers and am quite sure that there are real jerks out there. But we may as a society be more successful at reducing the racial/economic problems, if we understand, that a major aspect is the self fulfilling nature of the beast.
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    Anecdotal - Your link was excellent. For nine years I've been working for a black man who emigrated here from Nigeria to set up his own company. His company is now very profitable. He was already college educated and can speak three other languages (aside from English). If his prejudice against American blacks was bad when he first came here, it has gotten worse. He has little or no use for most African Americans and (in his own words) their "you owe me" or "gimme" attitude. He refuses to do business with government entities least he gets confined to their terms and conditions, such as Affirmative Action. He wants to hire the best without being hindered by excessive regulations.

    There is an unseen conflict between the new Africans who are moving to the US and the blacks who have lived here for generations. These are diametric clashes of beliefs, values and attitude. I have seen this happen more than a few times.

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    Re: Two rallies, one racial divide over Ferguson shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Those who are concerned about racial divisions learn absolutely nothing from what has been happening the past couple of weeks in Ferguson, Missouri. Unless, of course, you're interested in how to distort and gin up racial tension and strife for TV ratings and political gains.

    As long as America has a cottage industry that survives solely on worsening the racial divide, you won't have progress and you won't learn a damn thing.
    Good morning, CJ.

    Is it possible for people to wake up one morning, look around them, see that things aren't improving, and wonder why - or is that too difficult to face? Could it be that it's easier to listen to those who benefit from discord, and choose to believe them, thereby absolving themselves of any blame for their circumstances? I wonder....

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    Re: Two rallies, one racial divide over Ferguson shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, CJ.

    Is it possible for people to wake up one morning, look around them, see that things aren't improving, and wonder why - or is that too difficult to face? Could it be that it's easier to listen to those who benefit from discord, and choose to believe them, thereby absolving themselves of any blame for their circumstances? I wonder....
    Good morning Polgara

    Your wonder is a reasonable one. I have wondered for a very long time how much longer those who only serve to spread discord will be listened to. It has certainly gone on longer than I thought it would. This story playing out in Ferguson has be told so many times, each development has probably been predicted by many.

    Now we have a situation where the baiters have ginned up the issue so that the cop had better be convicted, or else. And sadly, it's once again the politics behind the effort that makes these stories so appauling. It seems to me it's about getting the community to takes its eyes off the broken promises and manipulation so they can be directed to vote for the right political party in November.

    This broken record replay will hopefully be stopped some day.

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    Re: Two rallies, one racial divide over Ferguson shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    As the crow flies the two rallies held Saturday afternoon over the fatal shooting of an unarrmed black teen by a white policeman were about 10 miles (16 km) apart, but the racial divide that separated them made that distance seem infinitely greater.

    Read the article here: http://news.yahoo.com/two-rallies-on...004209133.html


    Anyone who thinks that there's no racism and no racial division in the USA could learn a lot in Ferguson, Mo.

    But they'd have to keep their eyes, ears and minds open.




    I predict that some people in the USA will learn nothing from the Ferguson tragedy and similar events because they have their eyes, ears and minds closed.
    This is much like the Martin/Zimmerman "racial profiling and assisination" case - short on facts and long on preconceived ideas of what "must have occurred". It seems that nothing was learned about the need for waiting for the (too?) slow process of our judicial system to play out. One protest is based on the presumption of guilt of the officer and the other on the presumption of his innocence - which side you are on should not be based on race.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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