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    Obama: Review military equipment for police

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    Obama orders review of military equipment sold to cops - CNN.com

    So how do others feel about this? I suggest being careful about taking away things like stun grenades and armor when police are frequently dealing with gangbangers with AKs and "blank the police" mentalities.

    I understand the whole "militarization" thing, but our military saw a shift to law enforcement tactics in the recent stint as occupation forces. So sure there is a blurred line, but equipment that saves the lives of cops is not exactly bad. Why wouldn't you want bullet resistant trucks and body armor and stun grenades that allow police to STUN an unruly suspect rather than KILLING them. Or stun a hostage taker long enough to save a hostage.

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    Re: Obama: Review military equipment for police

    I'm not of the opinion that it's a problem of great significance, and it's likely being addressed now to placate the libertarian-left/ populist wing of his party.

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    Re: Obama: Review military equipment for police

    Lip service to pacify yhe Libbos. Especially since 99% of the "military" equipment that cops have isn!t government issue.
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    Re: Obama: Review military equipment for police

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Obama: Review military equipment for police
    Obama orders review of military equipment sold to cops - CNN.com

    So how do others feel about this? I suggest being careful about taking away things like stun grenades and armor when police are frequently dealing with gangbangers with AKs and "blank the police" mentalities.

    I understand the whole "militarization" thing, but our military saw a shift to law enforcement tactics in the recent stint as occupation forces. So sure there is a blurred line, but equipment that saves the lives of cops is not exactly bad. Why wouldn't you want bullet resistant trucks and body armor and stun grenades that allow police to STUN an unruly suspect rather than KILLING them. Or stun a hostage taker long enough to save a hostage.

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    Sounds like he wants to reduce the readiness of the first responders to anarchy in the streets. When violent mindless groups of armed criminals are destroying property and hurting innocent people then the police need to be well equipped, otherwise they may not engage the chaos, like what happened during the Rodney King riots in Los Angeles.

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    Re: Obama: Review military equipment for police

    for once I agree with the president.

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    Re: Obama: Review military equipment for police

    I don't think "military" equipment is being used but even if it was... it's not the inanimate objects that are the problem - it's the cops and their training on how and when it's appropriate to use whatever equipment they have. Better training = better cops.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama: Review military equipment for police

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Obama: Review military equipment for police
    Obama orders review of military equipment sold to cops - CNN.com

    So how do others feel about this? I suggest being careful about taking away things like stun grenades and armor when police are frequently dealing with gangbangers with AKs and "blank the police" mentalities.

    I understand the whole "militarization" thing, but our military saw a shift to law enforcement tactics in the recent stint as occupation forces. So sure there is a blurred line, but equipment that saves the lives of cops is not exactly bad. Why wouldn't you want bullet resistant trucks and body armor and stun grenades that allow police to STUN an unruly suspect rather than KILLING them. Or stun a hostage taker long enough to save a hostage.

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    I'm delighted, and hope that it results in a complete policy reversal.
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    Re: Obama: Review military equipment for police

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    I'm not of the opinion that it's a problem of great significance, and it's likely being addressed now to placate the libertarian-left/ populist wing of his party.
    Perhaps its being addressed now because Americans are feed up with seeing policy looking and acting like the army we saw patrolling the streets of Fallujah a few years ago.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama: Review military equipment for police

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I don't think "military" equipment is being used but even if it was... it's not the inanimate objects that are the problem - it's the cops and their training on how and when it's appropriate to use whatever equipment they have. Better training = better cops.
    This is true indeed. On the first day of the protests the police were sitting atop their MRAP's with their automatic weapons trained at peaceful protesters standing with their arms in the air. A very embarrassing sight for the rest of the world to be viewing the supposed greatest democracy on earth.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama: Review military equipment for police

    Quote Originally Posted by Porchev View Post
    Sounds like he wants to reduce the readiness of the first responders to anarchy in the streets. When violent mindless groups of armed criminals are destroying property and hurting innocent people then the police need to be well equipped, otherwise they may not engage the chaos, like what happened during the Rodney King riots in Los Angeles.
    Or instead of using stun grenades they use bullets.
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