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ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209:785]

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Buck Ewer said:
See the charts about protocols of force.

From Police Chief On Line Magazine:
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Once struck in the face and attacked and having one try to get the gun .. office Wilson follwed all protocal.. especially if he thought Brown was a possibility to harm other innocent people..

again.. I spoke with cops on this
 
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Lursa said:
Try to remain in context. We were describing the differences (imagined in your mind) between the cop having no record of offenses and Brown having no (releasable) record of offenses.

And I demonstrated that we DO know of him committing a crime, even if he will not be charged with it. (the shop robbery video)

I never said it was a capital crime...cut the drama, eh?
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The cut the smear and innuendo ...eh?
Either he deserved to die or he didn't
I say that he didn't.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
The cut the smear and innuendo ...eh?
Either he deserved to die or he didn't
I say that he didn't.
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We werent discussing if he deserved to be shot. We were discussing 'records' and how they reflected on both participants.

You dismiss the cop's, but ignore the video directly in front you. Hypocritical bias.
 
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Travis007 said:
Once struck in the face and attacked and having one try to get the gun .. office Wilson follwed all protocal.. especially if he thought Brown was a possibility to harm other innocent people..

again.. I spoke with cops on this
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No cop would say they would shoot a fleeing unarmed man ...even in New Jersey.
They are pulling your leg.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
No cop would say they would shoot a fleeing unarmed man ...even in New Jersey.
They are pulling your leg.
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and that didnt happen.Thug Brown was not shot fleeing aka in the back.... so we didnt talk about that..

why do just make stuff up?..
 
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Lursa said:
Where did the cop get the facial injuries? Even if not a broken eye socket....he was taken to the hospital for a reason.
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He had slight swelling of his face
He was examined and released in less than an hour.
According to the witness Johnson, Brown pushed the door back at Wilson when he opened it into them.
I believe he bumped his head with the door... Wilson reached out and grabbed Brown and the scuffle ensued.
 
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Travis007 said:
and that didnt happen.Thug Brown was not shot fleeing aka in the back.... so we didnt talk about that..

why do just make stuff up?..
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Why do you? No cop told you that.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
He had slight swelling of his face
He was examined and released in less than an hour.
According to the witness Johnson, Brown pushed the door back at Wilson when he opened it into them.
I believe he bumped his head with the door... Wilson reached out and grabbed Brown and the scuffle ensued.
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Brown caused that injury in an act of defiance and resistance. WHy does it matter if it's with his fist?

It was an illegal act, period.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
The cut the smear and innuendo ...eh?
Either he deserved to die or he didn't
I say that he didn't.
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I doubt you'll find a single person who thinks the guy DESERVED to die. I think the general idea is if you get into a physical altercation with a police officer and END UP being shot and killed, most people will say "don't get in a physical altercation with a police officer", not "OH GOOD! he deserved to die"
see the difference?
 
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Lursa said:
LInk doesnt work.
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Copy and paste it into your browser...It's a file access not a web site.
It will work.
 
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JoeTrumps said:
I doubt you'll find a single person who thinks the guy DESERVED to die. I think the general idea is if you get into a physical altercation with a police officer and END UP being shot and killed, most people will say "don't get in a physical altercation with a police officer", not "OH GOOD! he deserved to die"
see the difference?
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No . There are lots of people here who are quite glad there is one less black teenage boy on the planet.
 
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Lursa said:
Brown caused that injury in an act of defiance and resistance. WHy does it matter if it's with his fist?

It was an illegal act, period.
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It matters that it was not a reason to kill him when he ran away.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
No . There are lots of people here who are quite glad there is one less black teenage boy on the planet.
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Care to name names with this remark? You have been wrong about all of your claims here and have, predictably, fallen back on base, disgusting race baiting.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
No . There are lots of people here who are quite glad there is one less black teenage boy on the planet.
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my guess its other black teens who are the number one killers of black people and black teens..

they must hate black teens
 
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Buck Ewer said:
It matters that it was not a reason to kill him when he ran away.
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maybe he was going to carjack someone to try to get away,,, who knows...ONLY YOU.. YOU KNOW IT ALL..

maybe he was going to run down the road and cause an accident and kill innocent people.. maybe cause a car to swerve and hit a toddler..

we dont know ..ONLY YOU KNOW
 
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stonewall50 said:
If brown physically attacked a cop...he SHOULD have been shot. The video evidence from the store that he "allegedly" robbed, where the hand goes around the owners throat, would have justified shooting him too.

Someone that large, who reacts violently and intimidatingly to people around them, should expect good citizens not to put up with that kind of storm arming BS. That is the lesson. Don't be a bully and you want get shot.

Ps

Have you ever been pepper sprayed? Ever seen it used? I have some friends in department of corrections, they have to continue fighting while being pepper sprayed as part of their training. Pepper spray doesn't immobilize people. At the point of someone trying to take the gun from an officer...you must treat that person as someone who is willing to kill.
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Yes, I have- many years ago, I used to work in law enforcement. I would not have tried to pepper spray Brown as an individual. Rather, I would have let him walk off (I dont buy the "He, after being shot at seconds before, suddenly turned and banzai charged me while ignoring several bullet impacts" claim.

Brown was welll known and had no place to go. Once located, he would be arrested by a group of officers. Any, and I mean any, hesitation or posturing on his part would result in a judiscious use of pepper spray and an applied compliance hold. The very alive Brown would then do time for the strong arm robbery and resisting arrest / assault on an officer.

Chances are that "tough" guy Brown would learn very quickly that his large Pillsbury Doughboy physique does not impress the inmates of neither the county jail or the Missiouri prison system. My guess is that Brown would not find his stay there very pleasant as far tougher inmates can detect and exploit "virgins" in a variety of ways.

In short, Brown would hopefully grow as a person through this...
 
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Buck Ewer said:
It matters that it was not a reason to kill him when he ran away.
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You dont know that. It's part of a chain of events. Which we *do not know.*
 
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Buck Ewer said:
It matters that it was not a reason to kill him when he ran away.
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and actually if he kept running who knows.. but we know he stopped and then attacked the cop again and thats when he was shot..


can you please try to stick with the facts.. its tedious
 
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jmotivator said:
Care to name names with this remark? You have been wrong about all of your claims here and have, predictably, fallen back on base, disgusting race baiting.
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Here.
Travis007 said:
actually he got what he deserved.. one less animal thug on the street.

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Travis007 said:
and actually if he kept running who knows.. but we know he stopped and then attacked the cop again and thats when he was shot..


can you please try to stick with the facts.. its tedious
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Attacked with what? A box of cigars?
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Attacked with what? A box of cigars?
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With whatever caused the injuries to the cop's face?

Car door? Fists?
 
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Travis007 said:
maybe he was going to carjack someone to try to get away,,, who knows...ONLY YOU.. YOU KNOW IT ALL..

maybe he was going to run down the road and cause an accident and kill innocent people.. maybe cause a car to swerve and hit a toddler..

we dont know ..ONLY YOU KNOW
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You kill people on "maybes"?
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Attacked with what? A box of cigars?
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stop.. OfficerBrown had no idea if he did or din not have a weapon.. nobody did.

who are you trying to impress with this lunacy of just spouting anything to fit your agenda
 
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