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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Brown was 35 feet away from the cruiser when he dropped face down ... that much we do know. Wilson never lost control of his weapon. He could have easily had the time to draw his Taser while the kids ran that far away.
    Nonsense. Brown already established himself as a lethal was a threat. You do not holster your already drawn weapon until that threat has been put under control.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    All police training protocols call for only non-deadly force to be used when pursuing an un-armed suspect on foot.
    And you seem to think he didn't? There is no actual evidence that he fired on him as he fled or that any protocol was violated.
    He turned and resumed being a lethal threat. Which is another thing you do not seem to understand. This is one incident that happened over a matter of seconds where Brown had already established himself as a lethal threat. That did not change or go away.


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    The bolded part is the only logical conclusion that can be drawn from Wilson's actions ignoring the procedural protocols of pursuit on foot down a busy street.
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    Six shots against an un-armed man?
    Sound like rage to me.
    No it doesn't.
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    Wilson lost his deadly threat status when he ran away from the cruiser ...and the gun he never got hold of.
    No he didn't. Stop speaking about things you know not.
    He already established himself as a lethal threat, and that does not go away until the person has been subdued and under control.

    Even if Brown had gotten away he would be known as a lethal threat until the moment he is subdued and under control.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Something made him jerk his body as he ran ...At least three different eye-witnesses saw that happen.
    That wound was determined by the forensic autopsy analysis to have been received either from the front or the back.
    That wound was determined to have been made from the front. Which could have been in the front or the back of the arm as it moved through its travel.

    But the meaningless/fake/incomplete/non-official autopsy made it clear all shots came from the front of Brown.

    And as for those eyewitnesses? iLOL
    Darian spun a tale. It was false and sounded contrived. Those that came later repeated the same story he spewed.
    Nothing more than that. Those account will not be able to stand up to scrutiny.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    The police union lawyer told Wilson not to write anything almost immediately after the homicide, is what I read.
    Link?


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    Copy and paste it into your browser...It's a file access not a web site.
    It will work.
    Do you really not realize that you are providing an address that is located on your computer that only you, some one you allow access, and a hacker can get?
    Wth do you think the following means?
    file:///C:/Users/xLiL WeEzYyx/Documents ... etc...
    It is on your C: Drive, in your Documents folder.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Brown's autopsy report did not show any abrasions on his knees . He was wearing shorts. He was not attacking when he dropped. He was surrendering.
    He was murdered.
    You have no idea what that non-Official fake/meaningless/autopsy says, other than what they wanted you to know and believe.
    And the unscripted, un-coached spontaneous witness already told you that he was running towards the officer. That is not surrendering.
    So stop with the untruths, nonsense and illogical conclusions.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I am not "giddy" that a kid was murdered . I have two sons of my own. I am disgusted that this kid was murdered.
    As he wasn't murdered. You are disgusted over your own illogical thoughts.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    If he was running as the defense claim states ...his knees would be scrapped.
    You do not know that, and can not know that as that does not happen every time.




    Why do people say things they don't mean?

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    I will be back to talk to Y'all when the Grand Jury indicts Wilson for second degree murder.
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    Ferguson police most definitely DO carry Tasers;
    Nope. Wasn't true as almost everything else said wasn't.


    Were does that say they carry tasers now?
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Here is the correct link to Police Chief Magazine that shows a table for rules of force.
    Clearly it shows that an un-armed suspect should not be dealt with using lethal force... Something Wilson completely disregarded.
    Sorry for any confusion...
    Police Chief Magazine - View Article


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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Here is the correct link to Police Chief Magazine that shows a table for rules of force.
    Clearly it shows that an un-armed suspect should not be dealt with using lethal force... Something Wilson completely disregarded.
    Sorry for any confusion...
    Police Chief Magazine - View Article

    That's only for taser/electronic device use.

    Kinda hard to employ that against a fleeing suspect.

    Next attempt at (not) justifying using *lethal force* against a fleeing suspect? (Which taser/electronic devices are never considered.)
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Here is the correct link to Police Chief Magazine that shows a table for rules of force.
    Clearly it shows that an un-armed suspect should not be dealt with using lethal force... Something Wilson completely disregarded.
    Sorry for any confusion...
    Police Chief Magazine - View Article

    You forgot one in that article:
    Deadly-Force Resistance The subject’s actions are likely to cause death or significant bodily harm to the officer or another person.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    After seeing the crowds of peaceful protesters with police rifles trained on them, no thanks, I think I'll be keeping my distance from the Ferguson police.
    You keep forgetting the critical component. I want to see those eeeeevil policemen all pull back and let you and the rest of the protesters and rioters and looters all share the town. That doesnt seem to appeal to you for some reason.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    I don't think he was fleeing at all, just regrouping. The gun went off in the cruiser, so he ran away to avoid getting shot. He didn't have control of the gun. Then, when he saw that the officer was injured, he tried to get back to him and do what he intended to do. He was looking for a confrontation, this is what he was planning, walking in the middle of the road after a robbery. Yeah, I'd say that's what he wanted. Just my theory.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The protesters showed up peaceful. The looters, the larcenist and the arsonists, are not the protesters and shouldn't be confused as such. They are criminals and should be dealt with accordingly. Whereas, the protesters standing along the side of the street with their hands up in the air were staring down the barrels of automatic weapons (similar to M4's) held by what looked like the army in Fallujah atop their MRAP's, rather then police.

    what do you expect the police to be dressed in, and armed with?

    they are facing "possible" mob mentality

    was everyone rioting....no

    were the ones rioting and looting using the crowd as cover? yes

    were malatov cocktails thrown? yes

    were rocks and bricks thrown? yes

    not sure what you expect a police force facing that to be armed with, and dressed as.....

    i really dont.....
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You keep forgetting the critical component. I want to see those eeeeevil policemen all pull back and let you and the rest of the protesters and rioters and looters all share the town. That doesnt seem to appeal to you for some reason.
    I've been quite clear about the differences between criminal rioters, and lawful protesters. Even the lawful protesters were staring down the barrels of automatic weapons, held by people resembling the army atop their MRAP's rather then Ferguson peace officers!
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    what do you expect the police to be dressed in, and armed with?

    they are facing "possible" mob mentality

    was everyone rioting....no

    were the ones rioting and looting using the crowd as cover? yes

    were malatov cocktails thrown? yes

    were rocks and bricks thrown? yes

    not sure what you expect a police force facing that to be armed with, and dressed as.....

    i really dont.....
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I've been quite clear about the differences between criminal rioters, and lawful protesters. Even the lawful protesters were staring down the barrels of automatic weapons, held by people resembling the army atop their MRAP's rather then Ferguson peace officers!
    The looters came from the midst of the protesters, whether they were using it as cover or not. And yeah...the cops shouldnt point guns at paparazzi...but the paparazzi shouldnt be there pushing cameras in their faces and try to create stories.

    The cops cant use telepathy and say this guy is a here to loot, this guy is a protester. So...they should just completely back away and you should go join the party.

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