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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    What defiantly did not happen was that Wilson defiantly did not follow police protocol for foot pursuit of a suspect. he definitely chased an un-armed man with a gun in his hand
    ... and now he will definitely pay for that for the rest of his life.
    Nope, we don't know if he didn't follow protocol, because we don't know what exactly happened. Hmmm... there seems to be a pattern here. Every time you post that we "definitely" (I'm guessing the "defiantly" was another error) know what happened, we can be pretty sure that we don't know it.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Ya got nuthin'
    Here;
    Table 1: Use-of-Force Continuum
    Suspect resistance Officer use of force
    1. No resistance 1. Officer presence
    2. Verbal noncompliance 2. Verbal commands
    3. Passive resistance 3. Hands-on tactics, chemical spray
    4. Active resistance 4. Intermediate weapons: baton, Taser, strikes, nondeadly force
    5. Aggressive resistance 5. Intermediate weapons, intensified techniques, nondeadly force
    6. Deadly-force resistance 6. Deadly force
    Adapted from the Orlando, Florida Police Department's Resistance and Response Continuum

    In an attempt to mitigate public concerns and guide officers on proper electronic control weapon use, many agencies have changed their use policies based on the level of suspect resistance encountered. After the introduction of newer and more powerful electronic control devices, many agencies integrated their deployment into the use-of-force continuum at a level to be used when suspects were only passively resisting the actions of the officer.9 The use of electronic control weapons in these low-intensity situations led to considerable media attention and public controversy.

    In response to this scrutiny and to mitigate citizen complaints, many police agencies increased the required level of resistance by suspects to warrant use of this device from passive resistance to active physical resistance (see table 2). To date, no research has been conducted to determine the effect this use-of-force policy change has had on Taser deployments.

    Table 2: Levels of Resistance Defined
    Passive Resistance The subject fails to obey verbal direction, preventing the officer from taking lawful action.
    Active Resistance The subject’s actions are intended to facilitate an escape or prevent an arrest. The action is not likely to cause injury.
    Aggressive Resistance The subject has battered or is about to batter an officer, and the subject’s action is likely to cause injury.
    Deadly-Force Resistance The subject’s actions are likely to cause death or significant bodily harm to the officer or another person.
    Adapted from the Orlando, Florida, Police Department’s Resistance and Response Continuum

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    If he was running as the defense claim states ...his knees would be scrapped.
    Not necessarily and I just explained why. If he face planted, his face and gut would hit and his knees would just flop.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Here;
    Table 1: Use-of-Force Continuum
    Suspect resistance Officer use of force
    1. No resistance 1. Officer presence
    2. Verbal noncompliance 2. Verbal commands
    3. Passive resistance 3. Hands-on tactics, chemical spray
    4. Active resistance 4. Intermediate weapons: baton, Taser, strikes, nondeadly force
    5. Aggressive resistance 5. Intermediate weapons, intensified techniques, nondeadly force
    6. Deadly-force resistance 6. Deadly force
    Adapted from the Orlando, Florida Police Department's Resistance and Response Continuum

    In an attempt to mitigate public concerns and guide officers on proper electronic control weapon use, many agencies have changed their use policies based on the level of suspect resistance encountered. After the introduction of newer and more powerful electronic control devices, many agencies integrated their deployment into the use-of-force continuum at a level to be used when suspects were only passively resisting the actions of the officer.9 The use of electronic control weapons in these low-intensity situations led to considerable media attention and public controversy.

    In response to this scrutiny and to mitigate citizen complaints, many police agencies increased the required level of resistance by suspects to warrant use of this device from passive resistance to active physical resistance (see table 2). To date, no research has been conducted to determine the effect this use-of-force policy change has had on Taser deployments.

    Table 2: Levels of Resistance Defined
    Passive Resistance The subject fails to obey verbal direction, preventing the officer from taking lawful action.
    Active Resistance The subject’s actions are intended to facilitate an escape or prevent an arrest. The action is not likely to cause injury.
    Aggressive Resistance The subject has battered or is about to batter an officer, and the subject’s action is likely to cause injury.
    Deadly-Force Resistance The subject’s actions are likely to cause death or significant bodily harm to the officer or another person.
    Adapted from the Orlando, Florida, Police Department’s Resistance and Response Continuum
    its laughable...

    You forgot the part about "after an officer is attacked and weakened"..

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    I'm done for today
    I will be back to talk to Y'all when the Grand Jury indicts Wilson for second degree murder.


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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I am not "giddy" that a kid was murdered . I have two sons of my own. I am disgusted that this kid was murdered.
    Sharon? That you?

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Here;
    Table 1: Use-of-Force Continuum
    Doesnt cover when a suspect is fleeing and may comprise a danger to public safety.

    Like I said...nuthin'.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    The police instigated the looting?

    M'k
    The protesters showed up peaceful. The looters, the larcenist and the arsonists, are not the protesters and shouldn't be confused as such. They are criminals and should be dealt with accordingly. Whereas, the protesters standing along the side of the street with their hands up in the air were staring down the barrels of automatic weapons (similar to M4's) held by what looked like the army in Fallujah atop their MRAP's, rather then police.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What about those folk that have already declared the killing was justified? See how that works?
    If you've already decided without knowing what happened, then you are just going with the outcome you want, not the truth. That's how it works. You can suppose based on what we know. The first report I heard from CBS, I thought the cop just executed some poor kid in the street, for no reason at all. The more that comes out, the less I think that is what happened. Some people here have decided that is what happened and will be stuck on stupid for the duration.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    If he was running as the defense claim states ...his knees would be scrapped.
    That is speculative. Saying they "would be" is not the only possibility.

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