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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda1858 View Post
    So, you don't believe Brown tried to take Wilson's gun away from him?
    In the police cruiser,
    Isn't it possible that Brown saw him reaching for the gun, grabbed it or the wrist of the cop and it discharged in the car?

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda1858 View Post
    So, you don't believe Brown tried to take Wilson's gun away from him?
    In my heart of hearts, no.

    The gun would have been on the officer's right side (away from Brown). Brown would have needed to cram a good part of his torso- which appears to have been more Pillsbury Doughboy than budding "bama line backer through the window to try to get to the weapon.

    Though I cant prove my theory, my theory is that Brown pulled away, the officer pulled in and then the pumped up Brown struck him several times ( "Hey, check me out, the punk clerk got slapped, and I took his smokes. Now the punk officer just got slapped down too- I am on a roll")

    Brown then sauntered off after humiliating the alpha male officer. Things then went really down hill.... .

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Who knows? Maybe they are sloppy....But what makes you think you should be privy to evidence before the grand jury?
    I don't, just that paperwork (particularly if going to be used against an individual at grand jury) must be properly and fully filled out. Excon said they weren't trying to hide anything, to which I responded that they can then fill out the paperwork completely. That's it. I didn't say I was privy to view it before it went to Grand Jury, merely that it needs to be appropriately filled out. Sloppiness on the part of the government, particularly where it concerns government force against the rights and liberties of the individual, is unacceptable.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Determination that Brown, or his friend were 'un-armed' was not made by Wilson at that point. Remember, this was immediately after his confrontation in the police cruiser where Brown allegedly broke his eye socket, and tried to disarm the officer.
    Why would he supposedly be going for Wilson's gun if he already had one?



    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    There is nothing to indicate that he wasn't an even tempered good cop. Nor that he responded out of protocol in apprehending what was at the moment a felon that had assaulted the officer, tried to get his gun, and was by that time being broadcast as a fitting description of the man involved in a strong arm robbery. IOW, a dangerous suspect. I believe he absolutely acted accordingly.
    In 1995 the Supreme Court ruled that it was illegal for police anywhere to use their guns in a foot pursuit of a felon.




    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I am exactly the same size and weight...It takes me about 4 seconds to cover 40 feet.
    Now stop turn and get running at full speed again get shot five times and drop within 35 feet of where you started... Fourty feet is too short maybe more like fifty five feet..
    How long do you think it takes for a professional policeman to holster their weapon and draw their Taser?




    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not sure he even had one, nor that after having a suspect try to gain access to his gun it would be the correct call to use it if he did....The goal for a cop is to return home safely after his/her shift, not take unnecessary risk to his own life...Maybe that would work in the movies but we are talking about real life.
    All cops carry Tasers it's part of the uniform equipment belt. There would be at least one more in the cruiser.




    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Now you are changing what I said, the only reason for you to do that is that you know I may be correct, and that would destroy what you are building here...Now, I don't know if he had a taser, or not, but neither do you, and you need to temper your own out of control rhetoric about things you don't know.
    Why?
    I am offering my opinion and defending it on an internet site and I'm not breaking any of the rules here.
    Just like you .




    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Prove it...Show me the standard equipment issue for the Ferguson police force.
    Prove to me that they are not. Tasers are standard equipment on all police forces.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, a grazing wound I don't think would make your body "jerk", and further eyewitness testimony is not very reliable this much is known...As far as Baden's autopsy, he couldn't determine which direction, only that there was no GPR on the skin which means it was from more than 18 inches away. It could have easily been as a result from the struggle in the cruiser, but that is just my own speculation at this point.
    Could have been ...Could not have been too.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    " Unarmed " ?

    What difference does that make ?

    Two WHITE Texas A & M students were beat within inches of their lives ( one DID die because of the beating he received ) at a MacDonalds by a group of UNARMED black thugs.

    I mean you keep bringing that nonsense up but its irrelevant.
    There were well over 100 "thugs" as you like to call black teens and the student was killed as the result of a car crash miles from the fight.

    Un-armed means just that. Without a lethal weapon.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Ridiculous.

    A Black thug attacked a White innocent bystander in New York a while back with a punch to the head.

    The Man died

    What are you talking about ?
    Was the man a trained cop with a Taser who was chasing him?
    That's what I am talking about.
    You are talking about something else.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    In my heart of hearts, no.

    The gun would have been on the officer's right side (away from Brown). Brown would have needed to cram a good part of his torso- which appears to have been more Pillsbury Doughboy than budding "bama line backer through the window to try to get to the weapon.

    Though I cant prove my theory, my theory is that Brown pulled away, the officer pulled in and then the pumped up Brown struck him several times ( "Hey, check me out, the punk clerk got slapped, and I took his smokes. Now the punk officer just got slapped down too- I am on a roll")

    Brown then sauntered off after humiliating the alpha male officer. Things then went really down hill.... .
    If the cop pulled the pistol, and raised it to point it at Brown, Brown could have seen the cop's hand and gun, grabbed at it and there could be the discharge of the gun into the dash or other area of the car. Brown was probably defending himself from being shot point blank. I know if I were close to someone and they pulled a pistol on me, I'd grab for the hand or the gun as a defense maneuver.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wouldn't have to be. My stride at 6'4" is approximately 36 inches at a walk. When running that is nearly doubled to just under 70 inches. 35 feet is 420 inches, which using my stride that equals 6 full running steps. and took about 4 seconds....
    Have you put a stopwatch on your holster and draw time yet?
    Get back to me when you have those results.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I can express opinions on the internet too. I can say that I think every one of us will have a pet unicorn by Christmas, and Barack Obama is having an affair with Miley Cyrus, and anyone who buys a red car is sexually repressed. And people will rightly call me out on it, and of course none of them are accusations against a real person that are unfounded.
    ...and if your claims sound ridiculous no one will say a word to you.
    It seems like everyone here is trying to stop me from expressing my logical opinions of what I believe happened.

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