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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ikari, I am confident that you know how investigations work, and how evidence is preserved for a grand jury...Aren't you?
    And I'm confident that you know how paperwork is properly and fully filled out.....Aren't you?
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    The bolded part is the only logical conclusion that can be drawn from Wilson's actions ignoring the procedural protocols of pursuit on foot down a busy street.
    Incorrect. In order to make that kind of accusation about him or any other person you need to back it up. You can't just come up with an accusation by default or because nothing else in your opinion fits. Welcome to our justice system. We don't do it that way.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Six shots against an un-armed man?
    Sound like rage to me.
    Of course it does. That's because it's all you want to see.

    You have no idea what happened that day - nor do I. I, however, don't go around accusing people of crimes because of what it "sounds like".

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    All police training protocols call for only non-deadly force to be used when pursuing an un-armed suspect on foot.
    Determination that Brown, or his friend were 'un-armed' was not made by Wilson at that point. Remember, this was immediately after his confrontation in the police cruiser where Brown allegedly broke his eye socket, and tried to disarm the officer.

    If Wilson was such an even tempered good cop he would know this and act accordingly.
    There is nothing to indicate that he wasn't an even tempered good cop. Nor that he responded out of protocol in apprehending what was at the moment a felon that had assaulted the officer, tried to get his gun, and was by that time being broadcast as a fitting description of the man involved in a strong arm robbery. IOW, a dangerous suspect. I believe he absolutely acted accordingly.

    Brown would have had to run 40 feet away to be bum rushing back and still be dropped 35 feet from the cruiser.
    I am exactly the same size and weight...It takes me about 4 seconds to cover 40 feet.

    How long for a professional cop to holster his piece and pull his Taser?
    Not sure he even had one, nor that after having a suspect try to gain access to his gun it would be the correct call to use it if he did....The goal for a cop is to return home safely after his/her shift, not take unnecessary risk to his own life...Maybe that would work in the movies but we are talking about real life.

    Don't even try to tell me that Ferguson cops have all that high tech SWAT equipment on their force and can't afford Tasers for their patrolmen.
    Now you are changing what I said, the only reason for you to do that is that you know I may be correct, and that would destroy what you are building here...Now, I don't know if he had a taser, or not, but neither do you, and you need to temper your own out of control rhetoric about things you don't know.

    Tasers are pretty much standard equipment for all cops these days.
    Ask any cop.
    Prove it...Show me the standard equipment issue for the Ferguson police force.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Thats about the 10 yard line on a football field. Certainly not enough time to draw a different weapon, get it ready and aimed, then fire and hope it is enough to stop him. The first few gunshots didn't stop him, what makes you think a taser would have dropped him, assuming it even connected?
    Nah, the taser argument just doesn't make sense.

    I still believe this guy was looking for a confrontation with the police.
    Wilson had from the moment the kids ran away wile he was still sitting in the car util Brown ran at least 40 feet , stopped turned and got going full speed back at him. Keep in mind that Brown weighed 300 pounds was a smoker and just had a struggle with a cop before he started running.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

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    And I'm confident that you know how paperwork is properly and fully filled out.....Aren't you?
    Of for Christs sake...Come on Ikari, you're smarter than this.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    30 seconds.....omfg

    i was ****ing slow

    and my 40 yd dash time was 5.65 seconds as a 300 lb lineman

    that is 4x the distance.....

    35 feet can be covered in 2-3 seconds by even a slow runner
    Do you think you could make that time if you just had a struggle and a fight through an open car door window with a cop and you were a heavy smoker?

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Absolutely! lol

    6'4'' What is that? Three steps?
    That would be 13 foot steps.
    The kid was big but he wasn't a Sasquatch.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    i am saying anyone not using a walker or a cane can cover 35 feet in no more than 3 seconds

    literally

    35 feet is nothing.....

    i am old, fat, and out of shape....and still could do it under 3 seconds (EASILY)

    and all you have to do is go to any high school football field and have a few friends try

    in shape...out of shape....it wont matter

    you can walk 35 feet in 5-6 seconds MAX
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Nonsense

    35 feet in 30 seconds ? Where do you come up with this stuff ?

    So you're guessing a second a foot ?

    Was Brown using a walker that day ?


    And Tazers aren't as effective as some people think they are and since Brown had already violently attacked the Officer AND struggled for his weapon it makes sense that Wilson would use his pistol.

    I would.
    According to the cops story he would have had to run at least 40 feet away to be "charging " back in his direction and drop at 35 feet from the car.If you think about it he probably would have had to run more than 40 feet away . Don't forget he had to stop and turn and then build up speed again to be a threat.
    If you used your gun to shoot an un-armed suspect running away down a busy city street at noon you would be in the same trouble Wilson is in.

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