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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Nothing in Wilson's professional life and nothing in his personal life gives any credence to Buck's accusation.
    Six shots against an un-armed man?
    Sound like rage to me.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Brown was 35 feet from the cruiser when he dropped and supposedly he had been charging back when the gunfire started according to the cops.
    For a 300 pound guy to run 40 or so feet it had to take at least 30 seconds...
    Plenty of time for Wilson to holster his piece and draw his Taser ... the appropriate weapon to stop an un-armed man running down a busy street at noon.

    Nonsense

    35 feet in 30 seconds ? Where do you come up with this stuff ?

    So you're guessing a second a foot ?

    Was Brown using a walker that day ?


    And Tazers aren't as effective as some people think they are and since Brown had already violently attacked the Officer AND struggled for his weapon it makes sense that Wilson would use his pistol.

    I would.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Six shots against an un-armed man?
    Sound like rage to me.
    Too bad Wilson wasn't a better shot.

    If he had dropped him with one shot to the head would you be in here manufacturing false narratives about "rage " ?

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    No, it was most likely a .40 Calibre weapon loaded with hollow point ammunition (most police departments no longer use 9mm)


    Yet, that is evidently exaclty what Wilson did. Wilson fired one round in the car, very close range, and then fired several more when Brown was considerably further away.

    A police officer is trained to shoot until the target is no longer a deadly threat. This can mean "on the ground"- espescially when applied to an armed threat. Or, in the case of an unarmed man, it could mean (depending on a variety of circumstances) that they are no longer approaching the officer.
    Wilson lost his deadly threat status when he ran away from the cruiser ...and the gun he never got hold of.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Wilson lost his deadly threat status when he ran away from the cruiser ...and the gun he never got hold of.

    He got it right back when Brown turned around and charged Wilson.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Agreed. And further, much is being made of the "grazing" wound on Brown's arm. That the determination by Brown supporters is that this concludes that he was fired at while running away. See, I don't buy that. I think that came from the discharge of the weapon in the car during the fight for the gun.
    Something made him jerk his body as he ran ...At least three different eye-witnesses saw that happen.
    That wound was determined by the forensic autopsy analysis to have been received either from the front or the back.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Brown was 35 feet from the cruiser when he dropped and supposedly he had been charging back when the gunfire started according to the cops.
    For a 300 pound guy to run 40 or so feet it had to take at least 30 seconds...
    Plenty of time for Wilson to holster his piece and draw his Taser ... the appropriate weapon to stop an un-armed man running down a busy street at noon.
    I disagree, even a 18 year old 300 pounder who was more Pillsbury Doughboy (Brown) than budding 'Bama line backer could cover 35 feet far faster than 30 seconds. Likewise, a taser does not guarantee that the subject will be stopped.

    The officer was poetentially out numbered (would Johnson also join in attacking the officer?) and with out back up. As such, I think he was justified in keeping his service weapon out.

    As to whether the officer handled the initial encounter well, let alone was justified in actually firing his weapon, is an entirely different matter.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Yes, that is true. And other evidence (strong arm robbery, rap lyrics suggesting sexual dominance) indicate that Brown may not be the "gentle giant" of legend and lore.

    Even still, given the totality of circumstances, I would want some additional evidence, other than the officers word alone, that this shooting was truly necessarry.

    So far, the officer has injuries to his face in addition to his word. This does not truly show that the shooting was necessarry though.
    Composing awful rap lyrics and shoplifting cigars are not capital offenses.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Something made him jerk his body as he ran ...At least three different eye-witnesses saw that happen.
    That wound was determined by the forensic autopsy analysis to have been received either from the front or the back.
    It was almost certainly from the front as already shown. There are even reports out of St Louis that Johnson has changed his story about White being shot in the back.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Show me that Wilson even had a taser.
    Tasers are standard issue for all police forces. Show me that he didn't have one.

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