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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Duplicitous report? Ha, ha, ha!

    It is ridiculous to assume anything is being hidden.
    Well then I suppose they can fill out the forms in full then.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well then I suppose they can fill out the forms in full then.
    Ikari, I am confident that you know how investigations work, and how evidence is preserved for a grand jury...Aren't you?
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Brown was 35 feet away from the cruiser when he dropped face down ... that much we do know. Wilson never lost control of his weapon. He could have easily had the time to draw his Taser while the kids ran that far away.
    Thats about the 10 yard line on a football field. Certainly not enough time to draw a different weapon, get it ready and aimed, then fire and hope it is enough to stop him. The first few gunshots didn't stop him, what makes you think a taser would have dropped him, assuming it even connected?
    Nah, the taser argument just doesn't make sense.

    I still believe this guy was looking for a confrontation with the police.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Brown was 35 feet from the cruiser when he dropped and supposedly he had been charging back when the gunfire started according to the cops.
    For a 300 pound guy to run 40 or so feet it had to take at least 30 seconds...
    Plenty of time for Wilson to holster his piece and draw his Taser ... the appropriate weapon to stop an un-armed man running down a busy street at noon.


    30 seconds.....omfg

    i was ****ing slow

    and my 40 yd dash time was 5.65 seconds as a 300 lb lineman

    that is 4x the distance.....

    35 feet can be covered in 2-3 seconds by even a slow runner
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    30 seconds.....omfg

    i was ****ing slow

    and my 40 yd dash time was 5.65 seconds as a 300 lb lineman

    that is 4x the distance.....

    35 feet can be covered in 2-3 seconds by even a slow runner
    Absolutely! lol

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    All right, I've had about enough of your nonsense...Time for you to back up the ridiculous things you've been saying in here, and the other threads.

    Here you mention 'timing'.... What are you talking about? Is there some significance to the day, time of day, month, etc...?

    You talk of the "open space", and "distance" as if 35 feet is enough to warrant hesitation from an officer whom may, or may not have been just accosted by the suspect seconds earlier, and possibly injured, and had his weapon attempted to have been taken from him. And you and others speak of this as though he had a 'taser' available to him. Do you know for a fact that ALL police officers in Ferguson are issued tasers? Or that this officer, Wilson had one? Not to mention that if the reports are true, that Brown broke Wilson's eye socket was broken in the attack, and his weapon was gone for, then I'd be pretty confident in saying that at that point tasing a dangerous felon like Brown was out of the question. The training in that situation I would think is to bring the suspect into custody, and to treat him as a deadly threat to the officers life. Especially if the officer is being charged at a second time by the suspect.

    As for your absolutely absurd contention that Wilson is some violent, out of control cop, bent on murder, and not in control of his rage at being attacked. That is based on what exactly? All reports about this officer are of a completely measured man in total control of not only his emotions, but a professional on the job...



    So how do you square these reports with the laughable rhetoric you are posting?
    All police training protocols call for only non-deadly force to be used when pursuing an un-armed suspect on foot.
    If Wilson was such an even tempered good cop he would know this and act accordingly. Brown would have had to run 40 feet away to be bum rushing back and still be dropped 35 feet from the cruiser.
    How long do you believe it would take for a 300 pound guy to run 40 feet away stop and be at full speed running in the opposite direction?
    How long for a professional cop to holster his piece and pull his Taser?
    Don't even try to tell me that Ferguson cops have all that high tech SWAT equipment on their force and can't afford Tasers for their patrolmen. Tasers are pretty much standard equipment for all cops these days.
    Ask any cop.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    depending on stride, 3-5

    at most 5.....

    i am 6'4" and my playing weight was 308

    and i was SLOW

    35 feet....not 35 yards

    it really isnt that far folks
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Of course you can back up that bolded part.
    The bolded part is the only logical conclusion that can be drawn from Wilson's actions ignoring the procedural protocols of pursuit on foot down a busy street.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, he can't...Nothing points to this particular police officer as being anything buy a well measured, controlled, and solid cop...One of the many good ones...Not even one complaint in 4 years in that force.
    With that much experience he should know the protocols for foot pursuit of an un-armed man down the middle of a busy street at noon.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Ok,

    Let try to reconstruct in a general sense what happened while giving Officer Wilson the most favorable spin possible:

    The encounter

    - Brown and his friend are sauntering down the middle of the street. Brown is pumped up and juiced up after having pulled off a strong arm robbery
    -Wilson, unaware of the strong arm robbery, gives Brown a legitimate order to get out of the middle of the street
    -Brown refuses to comply, Wilson returns to Brown

    The Attack
    -Brown then suddenly attacks Wilson in his car. He quickly overcomes any resistance from Wilson, reaches over Wilson and tries to get his pistol on his right side.
    -Wilson, in fear for his life, fires a shot at Brown.

    The Attack part II
    -Brown retreats a good distance. Then, he reverses course, and suddenly charges Wilson.
    - Wilson is unable to call for back up,a nd there is no time to yell a warning at Brown.
    -In fear for his life, Wilson resumes firing at Brown.
    -Brown ignores several bullet impacts fired from a large calibre service weapon, lowers his head and keeps charging Wilson until he is dropped.

    Given that Brown was not high on PCP, how likely is this?
    Sounds like a fairy tale to me.
    People don't act like that.

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