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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    There is no rational reason to suspect such. Until such time, any such assertion belongs in the CT zone.
    Yes there is. A society that blindly accepts every piece of crap that comes out of authorities mouth is a society that will cede freedoms.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The rioters showed up for a fight and the cops were obligated to respond.
    And to you the same thing. I'll go with what the two retired police chiefs viewed it as.

    Ex minneapolis police chief on the Ferguson police response.

    "If you come out in the turtle gear and the head gear and the face mask and the riot sticks -- you're dressed for a fight and you're probably going to get one," Dolan said.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    And you want to pretend that with disrespectful assholes shoving cameras in your face 24/7 you wouldn't verbally snap every once in a while?

    So...have your tickets booked yet? You should go joint the protests and they should pull back all police presence. Send video!
    The police don't like to be filmed for obvious reasons. I'm glad they are being filmed and tough **** if they don't like it. Let the next one pull **** and we'll see to it he gets relieved of duty as well.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Yes there is. A society that blindly accepts every piece of crap that comes out of authorities mouth is a society that will cede freedoms.
    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    There is no 'disagreeing' with 'facts'. That 'community' rioted and looted for 3 nights. On the 4th night the police responded and using minimal force completely disbanded the protestors and the first night in 4 days there was no looting or rioting. You can deny it all you want but you can't ignore facts.

    The ex Seattle police chief Norman Stamper has the experience that you lack, and he DISAGREES with you.

    NS: From a distance, and without having interviewed anyone in Ferguson or talked with anyone on it, just relying on media reports, I would have to characterize the police response as an overreaction. Had you set out to make matters worse, you couldn't have done a better job.

    I'm just very, very disappointed and troubled that lessons that we learned in Seattle have not been embraced by American law enforcement in general, by these police departments that are facing mistrust and distrust in their communities in particular. If anything, the police in America belong to the people, not the other way around. As such, they have a responsibility to forge what I would call an authentic partnership with the community where they reject unilateral decision-making. One partner in a partnership just simply does not make unilateral or arbitrary decisions.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And to you the same thing. I'll go with what the two retired police chiefs viewed it as.
    No, to YOU they're the same thing. You're unable to distinguish between people simply protesting and people breaking the law.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And to you the same thing. I'll go with what the two retired police chiefs viewed it as.

    Ex minneapolis police chief on the Ferguson police response.

    "If you come out in the turtle gear and the head gear and the face mask and the riot sticks -- you're dressed for a fight and you're probably going to get one," Dolan said.
    Minneapolis responds to Ferguson, Missouri shooting, protest - My9 New Jersey
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, to YOU they're the same thing. You're unable to distinguish between people simply protesting and people breaking the law.
    Actually, that's your trouble being that there was both there.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    It reminds me of the claims during the Zimmerman trial that George was running around, ran into trees and fell and hit his own head on the ground. The black man couldn't have possibly have done it and all the white men are just clumsy oafs.
    And they thought that was accurate also.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

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    It is ridiculous to put all your faith in authority that they are doing the right thing and being forthcoming with all information.
    There is no rational reason to suspect such. Until such time, any such assertion belongs in the CT zone.
    Yes there is. A society that blindly accepts every piece of crap that comes out of authorities mouth is a society that will cede freedoms.
    No there isn't. Not one rational reason exists to suspect such.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And they thought that was accurate also.
    I'm sure they still do.

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