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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Then why was he stopped? And if Wilson stopped them for a serious offense, why did he not call it in?

    In all probability, the two men were stopped for walking down the middle of the street. They were violating a law and then given a lawful order by a police officer.

    This fact pattern support's Wilson's position. What then goes off on a tangent is that a macho contest quickly ensued.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    As long as the Grand Jury doesn't question his credibility what CNN questions doesn't matter.

    As long as the false narrative gets perpetuated and you get a trial and conviction you mean.

    Also, a witnesses credibility in Court CAN be questioned and mitigated on the basis of prior criminal activity.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Depending on when the round that hit him from an undetermined direction took place in the sequence of events/shots, it is possible that he got turned around by the impacts and that's why one of them hit him from behind/the side.
    Brown was running away when eyewitnesses said he flinched or jerked with a gunshot sound. He then turned towards Wilson and asked him not to shoot raising his hands and going down on his knees. He fell face down in the street facing the gunman.
    By all accounts the turning was vouluntary

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Then why was he stopped? And if Wilson stopped them for a serious offense, why did he not call it in?

    In all probability, the two men were stopped for walking down the middle of the street. They were violating a law and then given a lawful order by a police officer.

    This fact pattern support's Wilson's position. What then goes off on a tangent is that a macho contest quickly ensued.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    He failed to appear at his sentencing hearing.
    He gave the name Derick Johnson instead of Dorian Johnson. He didn't even lie about his last name.
    Those are the facts about Johnson's "record".

    He was sentenced ? For what ?

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Brown was running away when eyewitnesses said he flinched or jerked with a gunshot sound. He then turned towards Wilson and asked him not to shoot raising his hands and going down on his knees. He fell face down in the street facing the gunman.
    By all accounts the turning was voluntarily
    IF things went as described by these eyewitnesses.

    He should not have been shot more than the 1st round, if things occurred as you describe.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Then why was he stopped? And if Wilson stopped them for a serious offense, why did he not call it in?

    In all probability, the two men were stopped for walking down the middle of the street. They were violating a law and then given a lawful order by a police officer.

    This fact pattern support's Wilson's position. What then goes off on a tangent is that a macho contest quickly ensued.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Brown was running away when eyewitnesses said he flinched or jerked with a gunshot sound. He then turned towards Wilson and asked him not to shoot raising his hands and going down on his knees. He fell face down in the street facing the gunman.
    By all accounts the turning was vouluntary
    That's such BS.

    Thats Johnson's sccount.

    The known liar and criminal.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The hell they are.

    Tell us again how Brown was " shot in the back "
    I never said that Brown was " shot in the back"...
    I said he could have been wounded from behind by the grazing bullet.
    That is not inconsistent with what the forensic doctors said.
    There are three eye witnesses that saw Brown jerk while he was running away, as though he had been hit.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I never said that Brown was " shot in the back"...
    I said he could have been wounded from behind by the grazing bullet.
    That is not inconsistent with what the forensic doctors said.
    There are three eye witnesses that saw Brown jerk while he was running away, as though he had been hit.
    Thats not what Johnson said.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post

    Also, a witnesses credibility in Court CAN be questioned and mitigated on the basis of prior criminal activity.
    If Johnson's record was related to a shooting or a violent encounter with a patrol car...maybe. The lie he told at his arrest was about his identity and he didn't do a very good job at that. It's highly doubtful that a judge would permit that record in Wilson's trial.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Thats not what Johnson said.
    Yet, apparently, Johnson is not the only witness, if Buck is correct.

    I think we basically don't' know either way, and making a definite conclusion yet is ill advised.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Thats not what Johnson said.
    Johnson thought his friend had been shot in the back because ( like at least two other witnesses) he saw him jerk while he was running away from gunfire. He even stated that he saw some of browns blood at that time.
    He never got a chance to examine his friends body after the homicide so he could not know exactly where the wound was.
    Saying Brown was "shot in the back" is not inconsistent with him being "shot from behind".

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