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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Text over audio is an old trick employed to get people to think they heard something that they didn't.
    At first such a ploy seems like a courtesy to help the listener to understand hard to hear passages.
    The person at the source of the recording is obviously trying to make the case for Wilson, so I distrust anything that he typed.
    "Running" in street vernacular indicates an attempt to get away. Running towards someone would be described as "rushing" not running, just as Excon has, from the football terminology ( rushing the quarterback).
    The guy said, he was running, then coming towards the police, indicating Brown ran away then turned and came towards him, in a slow walk, not a run.
    Neither this man nor anyone else ever described Brown as running towards Wilson with his head down.
    Besides it makes no sense ...no one would rush with their head facing down when their destination was still over thirty feet away.
    That posture may occur in the last few feet just before impact, but not at over thirty feet away.
    No one would "rush" the shooter from thirty+ feet away after that shooter had just shot them. The only sensible thing for someone to do in that situation would be to surrender hands up and to lie down, face down to get them to stop shooting.
    That is exactly what Brown was trying to do.
    At that point, an out of control raging Wilson vengefully shot the prone, or near prone kid, twice IN THE HEAD.
    The thought that an un-armed teen would run head long, face down towards someone who had already shot them four times from over thirty feet away is absurd fantasy.
    It is a search, and a reach, for any scenario that could possibly justify a murder of an un-armed kid murdered in a blind rage.
    It doesn't make sense because it didn't happen.
    30 feet is only 10 yards. Dont watch much football do you?

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Then why was he stopped? And if Wilson stopped them for a serious offense, why did he not call it in?

    In all probability, the two men were stopped for walking down the middle of the street. They were violating a law and then given a lawful order by a police officer.

    This fact pattern support's Wilson's position. What then goes off on a tangent is that a macho contest quickly ensued.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Ah, please.

    You're asking me for a source when you are regurgitating myth?

    Thanks for trying.

    What " myth " ??

    Johnson said Brown was shot in the back.

    The autopsy results proved that he was LYING.

    Johnson also failed to acknowledge that he was just involved in a strong arm robbery. A FELONY.

    The only MYTH was the narrative that he was gunned down in cold blood, shot in the back after he was " pulled into the Cop car against his will ".

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    So now it's the cop tried to shoot him in the head,


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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Source ?

    Dorian Johnson has a record, Dorian Johnson lied about Brown being shot in the back.

    Autopsy clearly showed all bullets came from the front.

    Dorian Johnson failed to include that he had just participated in a strong arm robbery.

    You actually consider his testimony credible ?

    And prior criminal record CAN be used against a witness in a court of law
    Wrong ...Wrong ... Wrong...
    Dorian 's record is he stole a box from an apartment complex and when confronted with it he fessed up. That is the extent of his "record". Being wholly unrelated to this case it will not be brought up at Wilson's trial.
    At Baden's press conference about the autopsy it was made clear that the grazing wound to the right forearm could have come from the front or from behind him. Other witnesses observed Brown flinching with a gunshot as he was running away corroborating Johnson's assertion that Brown had been shot from behind.
    If omission makes a liar the Ferguson police are the biggest liars of all . The incident report is void of any information concerning the homicide whatsoever.
    Perhaps Johnson has no credibility in the conservative blogosphere but out here in the real world his testimony will carry more weight than any other witness.
    Johnson has not been charged with anything and has nothing to gain by perjuring himself.
    His account of the events remains credible and compelling evidence in this case.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    What " myth " ??

    Johnson said Brown was shot in the back.

    The autopsy results proved that he was LYING.

    Johnson also failed to acknowledge that he was just involved in a strong arm robbery. A FELONY.

    The only MYTH was the narrative that he was gunned down in cold blood, shot in the back after he was " pulled into the Cop car against his will ".
    Yet none of that proves he wasn't murdered, only that:
    A witness lied/didn't remember clearly.
    That the deceased was involved in a robbery prior to his death.


    It does not eliminate the possibility that the police officer inexplicably decided to kill the deceased for no good reason.

    People who have chosen sides on this, and that includes the protesters/rioters, are jumping to conclusions.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Wrong ...Wrong ... Wrong...
    Dorian 's record is he stole a box from an apartment complex and when confronted with it he fessed up. That is the extent of his "record". Being wholly unrelated to this case it will not be brought up at Wilson's trial.
    At Baden's press conference about the autopsy it was made clear that the grazing wound to the right forearm could have come from the front or from behind him. Other witnesses observed Brown flinching with a gunshot as he was running away corroborating Johnson's assertion that Brown had been shot from behind.
    If omission makes a liar the Ferguson police are the biggest liars of all . The incident report is void of any information concerning the homicide whatsoever.
    Perhaps Johnson has no credibility in the conservative blogosphere but out here in the real world his testimony will carry more weight than any other witness.
    Johnson has not been charged with anything and has nothing to gain by perjuring himself.
    His account of the events remains credible and compelling evidence in this case.
    Regarding the lack of a complete report, I would suggest that the police themselves may not have known precisely what happened, and this is why the report was incomplete.

    I stress this is only a possibility.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    None of this is accurate.
    Let's hear a point by point debate of any of it.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Walking in the road is a good way to get a Police Officers attention.

    Dorian Johnson's account of being told to " get the **** out of the road " is absolute BS as far as I'm concerned.
    You are not on the Grand Jury so you opinion matters not.
    Other Ferguson cops have been recorded by the press using worse language ... directed at the public for all to hear.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Then why was he stopped? And if Wilson stopped them for a serious offense, why did he not call it in?

    In all probability, the two men were stopped for walking down the middle of the street. They were violating a law and then given a lawful order by a police officer.

    This fact pattern support's Wilson's position. What then goes off on a tangent is that a macho contest quickly ensued.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Wrong ...Wrong ... Wrong...
    Dorian 's record is he stole a box from an apartment complex and when confronted with it he fessed up. That is the extent of his "record". Being wholly unrelated to this case it will not be brought up at Wilson's trial.
    At Baden's press conference about the autopsy it was made clear that the grazing wound to the right forearm could have come from the front or from behind him. Other witnesses observed Brown flinching with a gunshot as he was running away corroborating Johnson's assertion that Brown had been shot from behind.
    If omission makes a liar the Ferguson police are the biggest liars of all . The incident report is void of any information concerning the homicide whatsoever.
    Perhaps Johnson has no credibility in the conservative blogosphere but out here in the real world his testimony will carry more weight than any other witness.
    Johnson has not been charged with anything and has nothing to gain by perjuring himself.
    His account of the events remains credible and compelling evidence in this case.

    Wrong, Dorian is on video as a accomplice to a strong arm robbery.

    A FELONY.

    Also, Dr Baden clearly stated that the shots came from the front

    Maybe you just need to watch the video again a d stop using your imagination.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    NoNoBadDog!!!

    A LEO posting a video like that is nuts. My point is that, if there's some kind of macho mindset going on in the county where a COP would actually feel comfortable posting something like that, perhaps it's an indication that there's a wrong-headed supervisory mindset in the county as well. Some of that smack talking is quite contagious.

    (Doing it in the service? Okay. Doing it as a cop? Not okay.)
    There is a thing where some guys have to make up for what they lack in their shorts with their mouth. That is the reason for someone like that wants a badge and a gun. That is the last guy that should have that kind of authority. They are the ones lacking in confidence usually. Don't get me wrong, guys just talk smack on a regular basis but not like this.

    I am not sure it reflects the sentiment of most of their officers but it sure does reflect on their department. I would have liked to watched the ass chewing that officer got when they suspended him.
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