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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Really? Why?

    Here we have a situation with conflicting evidence, racially charged to the point of rioting and the police and two weeks later, the police, already suspect, fail to meet the terms and conditions of the laws under which they are governed. and there is no cause for suspicion there? We are to assume that nothing is being hidden?

    Sorry, for justice to be done, justice needs to bee seen to be done. Their position on what happened has changed several time and now has been redacted, contrary to state law. Please, fill in a blank for me, with the streets a war zone, tanks, snipers and RPG's deployed, rioting and racial tensions for nearly two weeks, what possible and legitimate reason could the police have for redacting what is, by law, a public document?

    The people of Ferguson deserve the truth, a boy is dead under suspicious circumstances made more circumspect by what appears to be a deliberate attempt to conceal evidence. The police have insulted those people, their intelligence and stolen their dignity by this shameful, corrupt attempt to obstruct justice.
    Well said Fearandloathing.
    There is nothing that the Ferguson police have done that puts an iota of confidence in their ability to perform their jobs in an honest and competent manner.
    It's almost as though they have given up on any appearance of propriety and wish only to be seen stonewalling and strong-arming any attempt to find the truth.
    The "blue line" has been drawn tightly around their desire to protect one of their own.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    The public can and will speculate. An organization collectively deciding to throw out information... Thats a whole other ball of wax.

    I mean the whole cigar theft crap. It had absolutely zero bearing on the shooting and the police chief acknowledged this saying the shooter cop knew nothing about it when the shooting happened... Looks like a severe sad diversion attempt to sway public opinion.
    This is standard operating procedure and has been since the first cop killed the first civilian. The first thing to come out is the "crime" that was committed. Note that they and all police, say "he stole a box of cigars" when they have only suspicion, no conviction. That immediately makes the victim into a criminal in the minds of the public "jury".

    Next, we get the rap sheet, real or imagined. We never, even at trial, learn about any "errors" in that list; as a reporter for 30 years it has been my experience that that list is always wrong.

    In this one, the story is all over the place, six shots? Two hit their target? From what distance? If the kid was going for the cop's gun, could he have been so far away that the cop, presumably competent with a firearm, misses four times?

    There are massive discrepancies in the official version and the usual varying information from witnesses. News flash, witnesses are the moist unreliable evidence; in a case where guns actually get fired and people actually dies with real blood oozing out on to the street, for most average citizens the shock is a bit overwhelming and they do not know what they are seeing and hearing, heard shots are completely unreliable because most times they don't hear all of them, and often "hear" the echo off buildings as a shot.

    It is pointless to argue the details, none is reliable, not the witnesses, not the cops and the cops appear not to want us to know.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    This is seemingly taking forever to get basic questions answered. I wonder how the AG is going to spend his weekend in St. Louie?
    Asking Sharpton and Jackson for pointers.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    One witness said two groups of four. Another said at least eight . Another said they heard ten shots.
    The autopsy says six individual shots with two accounted for in the body. At least one recovered from a house across the street from the shooting.
    The police report didn't say much anything else but it did say four to six shots were fired ...and they had the damn gun!
    The exact number of shots fired at Brown will only likely be known at trial.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Yeah, consistent...
    If you watched the entirety of Baden's press conference you would know that he pointed out that the graze wound on the right fore-arm may have been fired from in front or from behind Brown and that there is no way to tell.
    Several witnesses said that they saw Brown flinch as though he was hit while running away from Wilson's gun fire and that he turned and faced Wilson only after that occurred. That is consistent with what Johnson recounted as well.
    " In the back " is not inconsistent with "shot from behind".

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    It's in the OP article....altho the article isnt verified either.
    Ok...what information is missing and how does the missing information prove a cover-up? Call me crazy, but I'm not sold just because and ACLU lawyer says so.
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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ok...what information is missing and how does the missing information prove a cover-up? Call me crazy, but I'm not sold just because and ACLU lawyer says so.
    Sorry, I dont plan to read the OP and article for you. It's clearly stated.

    I never said anything about a cover-up and I cant verify the article. But you can draw your own conclusions if you actually read the article that is the basis for the thread you are posting in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Look at the "strong armed robbery" report and compare it to the homicide report. Same department, same day, same procedural rules... Night and day as far as amount of content is concerned.
    I'm not looking at anything. YOU tell me what's wrong with the report and explain how that proves a cover-up.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by NonoBadDog View Post
    Asking Sharpton and Jackson for pointers.
    It is highly unlikely that the top law enforcement officer in the country would ask political commentators for any pointers...
    ...but your cheap shot, political hackishness has been duly noted.

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    Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Sorry, I dont plan to read the OP and article for you. It's clearly stated.

    I never said anything about a cover-up and I cant verify the article. But you can draw your own conclusions if you actually read the article that is the basis for the thread you are posting in.
    You shouldn't have responded to my post, in that case.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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