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    re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Fear is a reasonable emotion after you've just been ATTACKED by a 300 pound guy who just tried to relieve you of your pistol.

    You left that part of the story out for some reason.

    I suspect it has something to do with a lack of honesty.
    And here all's I did was point out an article about white fear, and comment that it's in the white person's DNA, and you come up with this lack of honesty.

    Well, let's see, the pig bops a black dude with his door, tells him to get on the sidewalk, the black dude doesn't comply, so the pig pulls his pistol out (only defense) the black cat tries to run away, and the pig shoots him multiple times, yep, that fear alrighty.

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    re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That doesn't prove he was pissed at them before he encountered them.
    Hey, the pig smacked him with the pig car door, does that sound like a cop you'd want to meet on the street? c'mon man, the pig was pissed off and thought his white supremacy ruled.

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    re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Nor do I and since you made the claim, it's your obligation to support it.
    I did a couple of pages ago, try to keep up please.

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    re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They're not expected to do nothing, while someone kicks the **** out of them, either.
    It strongly appears that the officer did not have a broken facial bone. Furthermore, he was on his feet when he fired his weapon and though the distance from the officer to the deceased has not been determined, the shooting was not point blank and subjective evidence (distance from body to police car) suggests that Brown was not extremely close to the officer when he was killed.

    Buck Enwer said it best (paraphrased): The "man zombie banzai charged me after being shot several times" claim is not very likely.

    No officer needs to allow himself to be attacked. In this case, he should have waited for back up, taken Brown into custody then (or soon afterwards as he was well known in the area and easy to ID), then charged him with resisting arrest and strong arm robbery.

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    re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Ricocheted ... such an awkward term to describe the movement of a door.
    I took into account that Johnson is likely trying to make the door incident sound less aggressive on their part... and since Wilson grabbed Brown through the window it's a safe bet that he is the one who pushed the door back.
    Johnson's account of the events is not perfect, but I believe his testimony will be credible and compelling to the Grand Jury.
    He was the closest witness and to the entire encounter. He witnessed his friend getting shot dead only feet from where he stood and he hasn't been charged with anything. He has no reason to lie about what he saw and he seems sincere and forthcoming with what he experienced. He even admitted to being so afraid for his life that he couldn't get his legs to move.
    I believe that the Grand Jury and the FBI will see his account as being fairly accurate and that they will empathize with the horror he has experienced.
    Of course he has a reason to lie.

    Additionally, Wilson trying to pull a 300lb man through a car window... right...

    JOhnson's statement of the door ricocheting is baloney and so is the officer trying to pull Brown through the car window. The first moment I read his statement it sounded ridiculous and as someone trying to cover himself. If this actually goes to trial, a jury is unlikely to find it credible.

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    re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Fear is a reasonable emotion after you've just been ATTACKED by a 300 pound guy who just tried to relieve you of your pistol.

    You left that part of the story out for some reason.

    I suspect it has something to do with a lack of honesty.
    "He tried to get my gun". A defense for killing an unarmed man used so much by police historically that it has become cliche. It was even briefly used by Zimmerman in the Martin homicide case.
    Wilson is right handed and would have his piece in a holster secured on his right hip away from the drivers side window of the SUV.
    All eye-witness reports are that Brown was trying to push himself away from the SUV as Wilson held him by the shirt... not diving in as he would need to do to grab Wilson's weapon.
    I don't buy it for a second.

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    re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Hey, the pig smacked him with the pig car door, does that sound like a cop you'd want to meet on the street? c'mon man, the pig was pissed off and thought his white supremacy ruled.

    The " Pig " ??

    What's your problem ?

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    re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Of course he has a reason to lie.

    Additionally, Wilson trying to pull a 300lb man through a car window... right...

    JOhnson's statement of the door ricocheting is baloney and so is the officer trying to pull Brown through the car window. The first moment I read his statement it sounded ridiculous and as someone trying to cover himself. If this actually goes to trial, a jury is unlikely to find it credible.
    Ever been roughed up by a cop, you know, the kind that might grab you by your collar, scruff of the neck, grabbed by the hair, and told to comply? Ever been pulled over, cop tells you to get out, you refuse because you've done almost next to nothing wrong, and you're pulled out of your car by your shirt and thrown face down on a gravel road, or pavement, and had your face or neck stepped on?

    Yeah, that type of brutality.

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    re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Of course he has a reason to lie.

    Additionally, Wilson trying to pull a 300lb man through a car window... right...

    JOhnson's statement of the door ricocheting is baloney and so is the officer trying to pull Brown through the car window. The first moment I read his statement it sounded ridiculous and as someone trying to cover himself. If this actually goes to trial, a jury is unlikely to find it credible.
    What would be Johnson's reason to lie?
    The only time he stumbled looking for the words was when he described the door as "ricocheting" instead of saying Brown pushed it back.
    What would he gain by perjuring himself? What is he supposed to be "covering " himself from?
    Johnson's account of the events has remained consistent through many tellings and he never hesitated on any detail except for the "ricochet" line.

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    re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    "He tried to get my gun". A defense for killing an unarmed man used so much by police historically that it has become cliche. It was even briefly used by Zimmerman in the Martin homicide case.
    Wilson is right handed and would have his piece in a holster secured on his right hip away from the drivers side window of the SUV.
    All eye-witness reports are that Brown was trying to push himself away from the SUV as Wilson held him by the shirt... not diving in as he would need to do to grab Wilson's weapon.
    I don't buy it for a second.

    I know you don't buy it.

    What you " buy " are your imaginary made up assertions that aren't based on anything credible.

    Your still lending credence to the thug Dorian Johnson's testimony. Unbelievable.

    When I got out of High school I was 6'6" and 290 pounds.

    NO ONE pulled me around, or could have pulled me into a vehicle or could have moved me without my consent.

    If someone tried they may have torn my shirt but I was going NO where..

    The thought if the Cop muscling this kid around is ridiculous.

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