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U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

danarhea said:
As well they should. America should not be the world's babysitter. If Middle Eastern nations want to get rid of ISIS, let them do it themselves. And if ISIS prevails in the Middle East, and then commits any kind of terrorist aggression against the United States, then we should just nuke them out of existence and be done with it.
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That's one of those ideas that would be great if it worked, like Solyndra, but we all know that there will only be further mass killings and expansion unless the Americans get seriously involved.

I would offer a compromise of a) first daisy cutters, b) nukes. I don't want to see one more American killed, or even injured, while the rest of the world sits on their collective asses. Use the high tech killers intended for situations like this and ignore what the rest of the world says.
 
Caine said:
Ron Paul had it right.

All we ever do over there is continue to stir up MORE support for their cause from the local population every time we get involved.

We need to leave the Middle East alone.
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Do you think the Middle east will leave you alone?
 
fmw said:
Of course it is. But part of what was Syria last month is now part of the terrorist territory and not governed by Syria.
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In that case, you have no problem with Russian presence in the parts of Ukraine no longer governed by Kiev.
 
Grant said:
That's one of those ideas that would be great if it worked, like Solyndra, but we all know that there will only be further mass killings and expansion unless the Americans get seriously involved.

I would offer a compromise of a) first daisy cutters, b) nukes. I don't want to see one more American killed, or even injured, while the rest of the world sits on their collective asses. Use the high tech killers intended for situations like this and ignore what the rest of the world says.
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No daisy cutters. use a BLU-118 instead.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Woah! Howd you come up with that one!?
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You heard of the saying, know your enemy.

I got it from reading "Roots for Radicals" by Edward Chambers, it's required reading for all lazy and incompetent wanabe community organisers who couldn't make it in the real world and decided to attend Industrial Areas Foundation.
 
APACHERAT said:
You heard of the saying, know your enemy.

I got it from reading "Roots for Radicals" by Edward Chambers, it's required reading for all lazy and incompetent wanabe community organisers who couldn't make it in the real world and decided to attend Industrial Areas Foundation.
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I hope you know where it comes from.
 
APACHERAT said:
You heard of the saying, know your enemy.

I got it from reading "Roots for Radicals" by Edward Chambers, it's required reading for all lazy and incompetent wanabe community organisers who couldn't make it in the real world and decided to attend Industrial Areas Foundation.
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You feel like a real finder! Deep in your research to find the truth!
 
Jango said:
Our bombs will blow them to smithereens, man, of course it will have an impact. Why? Because our drones and planes will pin them down if we want them to. They'll have to operate clandestinely because if they go about things willy nilly then they are opening themselves up to the greatest Air Force our species has ever seen. And it just so happens that our Special Forces & Intelligence Community are World Class too.
If we put the necessary effort behind our choices we will squash them like flies.
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We need to destroy ISIS before it launches attacks in the USA or Europe.
 
Grant said:
Do you think the Middle east will leave you alone?
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Yes.

Or don't tell me the terrorists have won... have they Grant?

Do you live in fear of them?
 
APACHERAT said:
I concur but it will take a leader who can sell a war to the American people who are tired of war and Obama isn't that leader.
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The ISIS people who are cutting off heads are doing a pretty good job of selling a war to the American people.

They've sure got me convinced that we need to wipe them out.
 
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Caine said:
Yes.

Or don't tell me the terrorists have won... have they Grant?

Do you live in fear of them?
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No, personally I have no reason to fear them. Or anything for that matter.

Do you feel the terrorists have won? I feel the terrorists are winning, and will continue to do so until the democracies provide some strong leadership. Islamic terrorism is coming at a perfect time for them, with no strong leadership especially, of course, in America. A perfect storm, if you will.

They're are certainly doing well in Europe. 15% of French people back ISIS militants, poll finds ? RT News

What makes you so sure that the terrorists will leave the USA alone? Do you think they are lying? ISIS Terrorizes Middle East, Threatens United States
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Read more @: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/23/w...litary-action-possible-against-isis.html?_r=0

So we are going to selectively bomb in Iraq then in Syria? We know this wont drastically hurt ISIS. But the question is where do we bomb in Syria? [/FONT][/COLOR]
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Lmao... Wasn't it like 6 months ago that we were supporting Alquaeda by threatening Syria? And now we are going to bomb Syria to protect Assad?

The smell of bs is so strong... Who knows what to think.
 
Advance policies that support militant Islamic groups. And policies that cause hatred towards America, and then wring hands over what to do. No focus EVER on prevention, just always drumming up the next wars.
 
BmanMcfly said:
Lmao... Wasn't it like 6 months ago that we were supporting Alquaeda by threatening Syria? And now we are going to bomb Syria to protect Assad?

The smell of bs is so strong... Who knows what to think.
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Oh, it's not to protect president Assad, more likely we'll be tapping him while in there. That's what this is about. Toppling Assad has been the purpose behind supporting the terrorist groups at work against him to begin with. And what gave space (vacuum) and rise to IS (ISIS) after all.
 
Montecresto said:
Just the part where you suggested that were the right strategy applied this (fake and impossible) war on terror could be won, quickly.
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Why do you doubt the resolve of the United States? Do you know the amount of tons of explosives we can drop on them on a daily basis?
 
Montecresto said:
Oh, it's not to protect president Assad, more likely we'll be tapping him while in there. That's what this is about. Toppling Assad has been the purpose behind supporting the terrorist groups at work against him to begin with. And what gave space (vacuum) and rise to IS (ISIS) after all.
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This isn't any better...
 
Montecresto said:
Deliver the propaganda and the gullible, frightened public will support more folly. True enough. "Do we have to wait for the smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud over a US city" was fantastic propaganda! Your right, it works. Not on everybody, but usually enough.
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We face threats like that on a daily basis, man. But tell me, will an atomic bomb ever go off in a U.S. city? That's right, you don't know because you don't know the future, so the least you could do is recognize the legitimacy of the threat because if someone wants to do it bad enough it will be done. Al Qaeda flew planes into our buildings, had you anticipated that? Of course not. But we're in a post-9/11 world man, where "outlandish sounding" threats are a reality we must soberly examine because ours & our allies' decisions & actions have built up a considerable amount of blowback. Look, I get that you find it fashionable to condemn the United States every single time that you do, but I will warn you now, and it is carried by historical precedent, that if you rail hard enough against the country in bad times, there exists, legally, a multitude of ways to compel you into becoming a loyal citizen of our powerful tribe.
 
Jango said:
Why do you doubt the resolve of the United States? Do you know the amount of tons of explosives we can drop on them on a daily basis?
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Jango my man! What I doubt is American competence in policy that produces peace. If you think the best way for America to bring influence to the ME is with bombs and missiles, well, you have company here, but the notion is lacking.
 
Jango said:
We face threats like that on a daily basis, man. But tell me, will an atomic bomb ever go off in a U.S. city? That's right, you don't know because you don't know the future, so the least you could do is recognize the legitimacy of the threat because if someone wants to do it bad enough it will be done. Al Qaeda flew planes into our buildings, had you anticipated that? Of course not. But we're in a post-9/11 world man, where "outlandish sounding" threats are a reality we must soberly examine because ours & our allies' decisions & actions have built up a considerable amount of blowback. Look, I get that you find it fashionable to condemn the United States every single time that you do, but I will warn you now, and it is carried by historical precedent, that if you rail hard enough against the country in bad times, there exists, legally, a multitude of ways to compel you into becoming a loyal citizen of our powerful tribe.
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It's not that I don't recognise the threat man, its that our policies in the ME have helped to make it possible. The part of this that continues to escape you.
 
Montecresto said:
It's not that I don't recognise the threat man, its that our policies in the ME have helped to make it possible. The part of this that continues to escape you.
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No, it is you that is mistaken. I know why we're where we're at. You don't understand that we have a serious problem right now so reflection & introspection of prior U.S. Foreign Policy actions is not an important task to be done right now: we first must survive & resteady ourselves. Then, a thorough reexamination is in order. Sort out your priorities, mate.
 
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