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U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

Only you believe it. That's what makes it my point and not yours. Anyone doubting my intellectual ability is surely ignorant. Of that I have no doubt.

To claim someone with my capability is a robot only makes your argument even more weak. No one with unabomber positions can hold a candle. Your global CT does not confront me.

Right, you know dick about this.
 
Call it what it is first, man: it is a modern crusade. It's religion disguised as foreign policy. However, certain actions & reactions have kept us busy and involved.

Remember what President Bush said?


September 16th, 2001

I can agree with you on that.
 
Only you believe it. That's what makes it my point and not yours. Anyone doubting my intellectual ability is surely ignorant. Of that I have no doubt.

To claim someone with my capability is a robot only makes your argument even more weak. No one with unabomber positions can hold a candle. Your global CT does not confront me.

I'd offer you a ride in a new Jumbo Jet, but, alas, there won't be room for both you and your ego.
 
I would disagree. Why is stopping funding to people who give $$$ assistance and opening the Iraqi gov to Sunni's "unrealistic"?

1) You may force our allies to choose sides and we sure as hell don't want them to side with the bad guys.

2) I read, "Iran", my mistake. You got two-out-of-three. ;)
 
1) You may force our allies to choose sides and we sure as hell don't want them to side with the bad guys.
They already are... They are giving/have given fudnign to ISIS...
 
We should have been doing that for months, now.

Don't worry, the airstrikes are just for show. Obama has no intention of trying to destroy ISIS.

Many have been quietly thinking what you finally brought into the open.
 
Hey, it helped putting an incompetent community organiser into the White House.

BTW: Both Obama and the self proclaimed war hero John Kerry are on record saying that "geopolitics" are obsolete today in the Twenty First Century. :lamo

And they're right as it applies to this Administration.
 
Remember what President Bush said?
This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while. And the American people must be patient.
September 16th, 2001

And of course he was correct to a point, but the American people may soon run out of patience.
 
And of course he was correct to a point, but the American people may soon run out of patience.

Which is simple to remedy: tell us the truth and tell us the threat we're facing. If it is repeatedly said to us what failure to meet those threats means for us support would grow. If our nation requires the maximum amount of support needed to carry out an objective they know how to do it. It boils down to human psychology, man. Advertisers have us figured out. The government, using the resources at their disposal, could, which it has before, saturate us with So-And-So is Public Enemy #1. That whips up support real quick like as does when our enemies kill one of our own. So while public support may be low the government has to stand rigid and if what we're facing requires it the government will get the public to stand beside them at the ready. Nationalism and Patriotism are powerful drivers, man.
 
Good map to back up that map!

It was alright.....we have a better one up somewhere. I couldn't find it and didn't want to take anymore time looking. That one doesn't show them taking that City in Lebanon either.

There are better ones for showing what is under their control. As they expanded in Syria with Al Nusra reaching the Golan Heights. Which we know they now pledged to the Caliphate. They are also the ones with the most Europeans and Americans fighting in their ranks.
 
I know. Just saying if they do deem to attack its going to be interesting where they attack. Because it may very well help the Syrian state.

It can't help but help them. Any country harboring the likes of ISIS will certainly be helped by the group's elimination. I think eliminating them will help the entire planet.
 
But the question is, will this be with or without president Assad's permission. Sense were always harping about sovereign borders and all.

You don't think ISIS has eliminated the sovreign border? At the moment the area controlled by ISIS belongs neither to Syria or Iraq. At the moment it is sovreign country itself.
 
Which is good. But I would like to know where you disagree too.

Just the part where you suggested that were the right strategy applied this (fake and impossible) war on terror could be won, quickly.
 
Which is simple to remedy: tell us the truth and tell us the threat we're facing. If it is repeatedly said to us what failure to meet those threats means for us support would grow. If our nation requires the maximum amount of support needed to carry out an objective they know how to do it. It boils down to human psychology, man. Advertisers have us figured out. The government, using the resources at their disposal, could, which it has before, saturate us with So-And-So is Public Enemy #1. That whips up support real quick like as does when our enemies kill one of our own. So while public support may be low the government has to stand rigid and if what we're facing requires it the government will get the public to stand beside them at the ready. Nationalism and Patriotism are powerful drivers, man.

Deliver the propaganda and the gullible, frightened public will support more folly. True enough. "Do we have to wait for the smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud over a US city" was fantastic propaganda! Your right, it works. Not on everybody, but usually enough.
 
You don't think ISIS has eliminated the sovreign border? At the moment the area controlled by ISIS belongs neither to Syria or Iraq. At the moment it is sovreign country itself.

What? Syria is sovereign, or no.
 
BTW: Both Obama and the self proclaimed war hero John Kerry are on record saying that "geopolitics" are obsolete today in the Twenty First Century. :lamo
BTW, that's a complete fabrication.
 
And of course he was correct to a point, but the American people may soon run out of patience.

As well they should. America should not be the world's babysitter. If Middle Eastern nations want to get rid of ISIS, let them do it themselves. And if ISIS prevails in the Middle East, and then commits any kind of terrorist aggression against the United States, then we should just nuke them out of existence and be done with it.
 
As well they should. America should not be the world's babysitter. If Middle Eastern nations want to get rid of ISIS, let them do it themselves. And if ISIS prevails in the Middle East, and then commits any kind of terrorist aggression against the United States, then we should just nuke them out of existence and be done with it.

Do we have discriminating nuclear weapons. Because I don't want anymore Hiroshima's or Nagasaki's.
 
Ron Paul had it right.

All we ever do over there is continue to stir up MORE support for their cause from the local population every time we get involved.

We need to leave the Middle East alone.
 
Ron Paul had it right.

All we ever do over there is continue to stir up MORE support for their cause from the local population every time we get involved.

We need to leave the Middle East alone.

Ron Paul DID have it right where the ME is concerned.
 
What? Syria is sovereign, or no.

Of course it is. But part of what was Syria last month is now part of the terrorist territory and not governed by Syria.
 
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