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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Wherever the military determines the tactical targets are.

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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

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    We'll agree to disagree.


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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    To weaken them it will have to be a full front war. I believe it will have to be cutting off their funding, pushing them back to a specific area they control, then working with all governments, and forces against them to weaken them (being Iraq, Turkey, Syria, and all Kurd forces).
    We should have been doing that for months, now.

    Don't worry, the airstrikes are just for show. Obama has no intention of trying to destroy ISIS.
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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Wherever the military determines the tactical targets are.
    I know. Just saying if they do deem to attack its going to be interesting where they attack. Because it may very well help the Syrian state.


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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/23/wo...isis.html?_r=0

    So we are going to selectively bomb in Iraq then in Syria? We know this wont drastically hurt ISIS. But the question is where do we bomb in Syria? [/FONT][/COLOR]
    But the question is, will this be with or without president Assad's permission. Sense were always harping about sovereign borders and all. The US has been trying to get into Syria for years. Regime change is a long term pentagon ambition, it was attempted legally and overtly, at the UN level, its been attempted covertly with the CIA and smuggling of arms through the Benghazi annex into Syria, and this looks like a new way to get our noses in. Wonder what Russia will have to say about this.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    Okey dokey smokey!

    So tell us, how do you suggest the US and West deal with the genocide being committed by ISIS? Wait... let me guess... negotiate?

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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Yeah like how Afghanistan has been a success. I love how after 13 years of uninterrupted "bombs and drones' has eliminated the terrorist threat and destroyed Al Qaeda.

    Yes! With that great and tarnished track record we will "bomb them into the stone age", the great war cry of the Vietnam era..

    The only problem is the US has started countless wars and seldom if ever finish one. It was the road kill that is Obama's support who seem to forget that it was Obama who declared the war in Iraq over...and pulled troops which improved his all important popularity rating. Now here we are, going back in, expecting a quick defeat like the North before Bull Run.

    One of the true marks of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over and expecting different results = American foreign policy.

    Sorry, but this revolving door of invasions and withdrawals is getting old and costing a lot of lives.
    Patronizing Americans can't even conceive of the fact that we could get things wrong! This isn't just a country, its America, and we're always right, always good, and they are always wrong, always bad. Take any dispute between the US and Russia as example. Russia, in the eyes of the overwhelming (but certainly not all) majority, Russia will be wrong, and the US will be right. Never mind that Russian warnings and predictions on Libya, Syria and Ukraine have all been correct, Russia's wrong, and the US is right.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Patronizing Americans can't even conceive of the fact that we could get things wrong! This isn't just a country, its America, and we're always right, always good, and they are always wrong, always bad.
    No one believes that. You're just creating a strawman so that you can rant about what's wrong in/by America - as if no one else has a clue.

    Evidence A: your rant that immediately follows:

    Take any dispute between the US and Russia as example. Russia, in the eyes of the overwhelming (but certainly not all) majority, Russia will be wrong, and the US will be right. Never mind that Russian warnings and predictions on Libya, Syria and Ukraine have all been correct, Russia's wrong, and the US is right.

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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Politicians have recently invented the word "surge" when any serious war should be a constant surge until the enemy is eliminated. Another new term is "exit strategy", which was once know as 'retreat', or "terms of surrender". It is clear that opposition parties will uses these terms for political purposes and not what is best for winning a declared war.
    Let Harper lead the Mounties if you're so bent on declared war. Some of us Americans aren't interested in it.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Yeah like how Afghanistan has been a success. I love how after 13 years of uninterrupted "bombs and drones' has eliminated the terrorist threat and destroyed Al Qaeda.

    Yes! With that great and tarnished track record we will "bomb them into the stone age", the great war cry of the Vietnam era..

    The only problem is the US has started countless wars and seldom if ever finish one. It was the road kill that is Obama's support who seem to forget that it was Obama who declared the war in Iraq over...and pulled troops which improved his all important popularity rating. Now here we are, going back in, expecting a quick defeat like the North before Bull Run.

    One of the true marks of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over and expecting different results = American foreign policy.

    Sorry, but this revolving door of invasions and withdrawals is getting old and costing a lot of lives.
    I agree with you, man, I do, I was only pointing the capabilities of the U.S. Military and that if the right strategy was utilized, the War would be easily won. I recognize the historical context and that the likelihood of an impressive campaign is low, but I similarly recognize that the ability to do it exists and could be done if properly motivated.

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