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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Bumping up your thread TDS.


    Obama likely to hit ISIL in Syria without Congress’s formal OK.....

    The White House has repeatedly trumpeted its “consultations” and “coordination” with lawmakers and its “notifications” to Congress about deployments against ISIL under the 1973 War Powers Act. That law, which presidents have never accepted as constitutional, was designed to limit the ability of the chief executive to send troops overseas absent a formal declaration of war. But top Obama aides have refused to commit to seeking congressional authorization as required by the law 60 days after American forces first enter into hostilities. Asked on Aug. 8 whether Obama would abide by that stricture, Earnest sidestepped the question.

    “What we’re talking about now is confronting a terrorist group that has sought safe haven in Syria,” Earnest said. “This is a group that poses a threat to Americans in the region and could potentially down the line pose a broader threat to American interests and our allies around the globe.” In fact, the administration has laid the groundwork since the very early months of 2014 for unilateral action on the grounds that ISIL could eventually threaten America directly. In January and February, top intelligence officials compared Syria to Yemen and suggested ISIL had found safe haven in areas beyond Assad’s reach.....snip~

    Obama likely to hit ISIL in Syria without Congress

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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Is this what presidents do now. If he gets away with it again, think the next president does the same? Does anybody understand what a dangerous precedent this is. Or are partisans going to continue to support this ****??
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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    They are sinking unless they receive aid. And you think that will then teach them a lesson? What would be the point of having a powerful terrorist group take over Iraq with access to Iraqi oil, and other countries throughout the Middle East. America, with its coalition members, started the war in Iraq and should have seen it through until they could properly looked after themselves and the region had settled down. To do otherwise was foolish and immoral.

    One good thing is that, without US even being informed, Egypt and the UAE are attacking Islamist strongholds in Libya. But these countries need help and other nations, in their own long term interest, should give it to them.
    There were no Islamist strongholds in Libya when Gaddafi was there. And Egypt and UAE didn't just do something without telling the US, they didn't tell Canada either.
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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    There were no Islamist strongholds in Libya when Gaddafi was there. And Egypt and UAE didn't just do something without telling the US, they didn't tell Canada either.
    Yes they did just do something Monte..... and they didn't tell team Obama anything.


    Egypt and UAE strike Islamist militias in Libya.....

    The United Arab Emirates and Egypt have carried out a series of airstrikes in the Libyan capital, Tripoli, U.S. officials said Monday, marking an escalation in the chaotic war among Libya’s rival militias that has driven American and other diplomats from the country.

    The Obama administration did not know ahead of time about the highly unusual military intervention, although the United States was aware that action by Arab states might come as the crisis in Libya worsened, said one official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.....snip~

    Egypt and UAE strike Islamist militias in Libya - The Washington Post

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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    There were no Islamist strongholds in Libya when Gaddafi was there. And Egypt and UAE didn't just do something without telling the US, they didn't tell Canada either.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...raids-revealed

    It seems they didn't tell the US.

    And in fact Libya was close to being 100% Islamic and Gadaffi wanted Islam to spread throughout Europe, and the world.

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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yes they did just do something Monte..... and they didn't tell team Obama anything.


    Egypt and UAE strike Islamist militias in Libya.....

    The United Arab Emirates and Egypt have carried out a series of airstrikes in the Libyan capital, Tripoli, U.S. officials said Monday, marking an escalation in the chaotic war among Libya’s rival militias that has driven American and other diplomats from the country.

    The Obama administration did not know ahead of time about the highly unusual military intervention, although the United States was aware that action by Arab states might come as the crisis in Libya worsened, said one official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.....snip~

    Egypt and UAE strike Islamist militias in Libya - The Washington Post
    You should read my post that you quoted again, I didn't claim that Egypt and UAE didn't do something without the US knowing, I pointed out that they didn't tell Canada either. Dangerous to respond to a post without reading it all!!
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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...raids-revealed

    It seems they didn't tell the US.

    And in fact Libya was close to being 100% Islamic and Gadaffi wanted Islam to spread throughout Europe, and the world.
    Gaddafi made the peace with the US and was co-operating nicely. He didn't have radical Islamists causing the trouble that they are today, and his removal was a mistake. Get Harper involved if you want anything else done in the ME.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You should read my post that you quoted again, I didn't claim that Egypt and UAE didn't do something without the US knowing, I pointed out that they didn't tell Canada either. Dangerous to respond to a post without reading it all!!
    So Canada was included gratuitously?

    Don't get so rattled. It's just a debate board.

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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So Canada was included gratuitously?

    Don't get so rattled. It's just a debate board.
    Yes of course. But they probably didn't tell Germany either. Why don't you begin debating then?
    I prefer that the US gets president Assad's permission first, and that our president has congressional approval. Your belligerent approach is more failure.
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    Re: U.S. Weighs Direct Military Action Against ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Gaddafi made the peace with the US and was co-operating nicely. He didn't have radical Islamists causing the trouble that they are today, and his removal was a mistake. Get Harper involved if you want anything else done in the ME.
    Again, Libya was almost entirely Muslim (meaning you don't know who was 'radical' and who wasn't) Gadaffi was promoting the takeover of Europe through Islam and felt that it was progressing nicely. If you want to discuss this then do some research first.

    The Muslim Brotherhood and Gaddafi were partners not too long ago - Point de Bascule Canada

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