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Breaking: CNN Reports Darren Wilson Did Not Suffer a Fractured Eye Socket

Fiddytree said:
I don't think he is a hack. I think he is more often than not, quite sensible. He doesn't presume that he is being objective (I think he instead tries to convince people he is "fair"), but he doesn't try to force feed viewers, either.
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That's your opinion, I just don't see it....:shrug:
 
j-mac said:
No, not true, that is only the rhetoric you are using to distract from the fact that you tried to use an ultra liberal source like U of Columbia's "J" school to distract the actual topic of the thread....Just be honest and we get along better.
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I'm distracting nothing. I have no problem with the source, you only do because you don't like their findings. If they produced a report sympathetic with your ideology, you'd have no problem with the source.
 
Fenton said:
You're predisposition is to attempt to mainstream obvious left wing sources and then use them to marginalize the sources that counter YOUR agenda.

Like using HuffPo as a source or using the Columbia School of Journalism to pigeon hole Fox news as the " most partisan News network. "

Its nothing new as most Libs here have done it.

The distinction is is when you do it its so blatantly obvious it looks like your parodying other Libs more discreet attempts at providing " unbiased " information.

Maybe you just need to practice a bit more.
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There are mainstream sources both on the left and right, it just is. Learn to deal with it and you'll feel less frustrated.
 
clownboy said:
No, you could instead stay on topic and forgo the distractions.
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If you're going to argue that everyone has an agenda, A, you're off topic, and 2, what's the point of any debate? Nobodies honest and your wasting your time.
 
Sabanist said:
How do you know?
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Seems quite evident that across America, nobody knows what happened. We've been inundated with disinformation, propaganda, conflicting witness reports, lies and half truths. Lets see whether or not the GJ returns a true bill.
 
Montecresto said:
Seems quite evident that across America, nobody knows what happened. We've been inundated with disinformation, propaganda, conflicting witness reports, lies and half truths. Lets see whether or not the GJ returns a true bill.
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You just stated none of it happened.
 
beefheart said:
No, Fox is right wing, MSNBC is left wing. CNN is moderate.

But to someone who is ultra right wing, every media source outside of Fox and discredited bloggers is left wing.
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CNN is not moderate. I do admit that I will give them more credibility than Jim Whatshisface tho.
 
beefheart said:
Not me, I want the truth. And I want cops to stop shooting unarmed people in the street. Funny, everyone stands up for the cops, unless it is something they don't agree with (Bundy).

Ah, hypocrisy.
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Uhhh, I honestly don't know how to respond to this. First you say you want the truth then you state that you want cops to stop shooting unarmed people in the street. It seems that you have made a judgement as to the guilt of the cop without the facts. I mean, that SOB shot an unarmed man so he must be guilty. You start out fair and go towards insinuating the cop is guilty and still, you have no facts. None of us have all the facts. Jim Whatshisface is an idiot. I will give you that. I totally agree on that point. I never heard of the guy before. I am glad he isn't my neighbor. I have enough idiots that I have to deal with in my life. But to claim that you want the facts and have already condemned the cop when you are missing facts is just conflicting and disingenuous.

For the record I haven't made up my mind yet. It might be because I don't have the facts. I want a source that is credible. That doesn't mean Jim Whatshisface or CNN's anon source.
 
vesper said:
What is hilarious about this thread is the OP uses a source from Little Green Footballs to discredit Gateway Pundit.
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Yeah, kind of ironic isn't it. Dumb and dumber in the blogosphere.
 
beefheart said:
So what?

Jim Hoft posted a freaking Xray (taken from another site). He flat out lied.

I get a swollen face during allergy season... not an orbital fracture :)
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So there is no change the facial swelling came from the altercation that Wilson claimed he was in? And he had that swollen face from what exactly?
 
NonoBadDog said:
Uhhh, I honestly don't know how to respond to this. First you say you want the truth then you state that you want cops to stop shooting unarmed people in the street. It seems that you have made a judgement as to the guilt of the cop without the facts. I mean, that SOB shot an unarmed man so he must be guilty. You start out fair and go towards insinuating the cop is guilty and still, you have no facts. None of us have all the facts. Jim Whatshisface is an idiot. I will give you that. I totally agree on that point. I never heard of the guy before. I am glad he isn't my neighbor. I have enough idiots that I have to deal with in my life. But to claim that you want the facts and have already condemned the cop when you are missing facts is just conflicting and disingenuous.

For the record I haven't made up my mind yet. It might be because I don't have the facts. I want a source that is credible. That doesn't mean Jim Whatshisface or CNN's anon source.
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This is without a doubt the most intelligent post I have seen in these debates so far.

Too bad you are going to get lumped in as a "racist white conservative who always defends the cops." All because you want justice. Not "justice" where you prosecute someone for a racial agenda.
 
Montecresto said:
Holder is no doubt privy to all the facts and isn't viewing this through all the mis-information that we are seeing. And as such, he must feel that there is probable cause for his investigation, and now too, this is in the hands of the rubber stamp Grand Jury.

Howdy Polgara!
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I think you are giving Holder too much credit. I think he will scour this situation to push his personal agenda. Wouldn't be the first time.
 
Last I heard this was reversed, and the officer did in fact suffer an injury in the attack by Brown.

Can anyone confirm?
 
shrubnose said:
So what? The cop who shot and killed Brown knew nothing about this at the time of the shooting so it won't be a factor at any trial that is held.
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You are correct that it doesn't provide ammo for Brown but it does erode the credibility of the witness (Johnson) if he were to testify in court.
 
tres borrachos said:
Hey, does anyone else remember last year when CNN was the butt of jokes from everyone from Jon Stewart to the AP for ****ing up the reporting from the Boston bombing?

Blazing headline on channel and on the internet:
Arrest made in Boston bombing! (according to "sources")

Anderson Cooper reports this on air - woohoo all is good, we got the guy!
WAIT! Hold on, now sources say no arrest was made
Wait, they have a suspect but no name yet
Okay, hold on, no suspect, no name
Wait, now the Administration and other Federal official say no arrest, no

This was even better than when they ****ed up in 2012 on the SCOTUS ruling on the individual mandate:

Mandate ruled unconstitutional! Obamacare in big trouble!
Wait...hold on
Hold a minute, it looks like our sources are wrong....

Yeah, CNN never gets it wrong.;)
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That is all okay though. They have Gravitas. Gravitas counters all.
 
beefheart said:
CNN has ethics and gravitas.

Hoft is the stupidest man on the internet.
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I had that gravitas stuff once. The doctor gave me a cream and it cleared it right up. That gravitas stuff sucked almost as bad as that foot syphilis. (I had to inject some humor, couldn't resist.) :lol:
 
shrubnose said:
I doubt that will be seen as a valid reason to shoot him 6-times and kill him.
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Is there a law of physics that determines how many rounds it takes to stop a 294 pound man? If there is please let us in on it. If, and I say "if, he was charging it would take as man as it takes and that could very easily be 6 rounds.
 
Montecresto said:
Oh, there's plenty more.

Fox News' year in apologies: Fake videos, false info, cutting and pasting from GOP
Research November 19, 2009 5:54 PM EST ››› ERIC HANANOKI

On November 19, co-host Jane Skinner apologized for Happening Now "mistakenly" airing a fake video of Sarah Palin's book tour "crowds." This was not the first time Fox News has apologized for airing fake videos and false information.

Fox News' year in apologies: Fake videos, false info, cutting and pasting from GOP | Research | Media Matters for America
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Monte, I agree with you on the existence of bias from Fox but maybe not to the degree that you believe. I never take Fox news at face value. I think all news organizations are bias so I try to look for the original source. But did you really just use Mediamatters as a source? Really? About validity? Really?
 
eohrnberger said:
Last I heard this was reversed, and the officer did in fact suffer an injury in the attack by Brown.

Can anyone confirm?
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CNN had a report today that says Wilson didn't have a fracture. It is from an anon source.

Nobody knows anything. Nobody knew anything yesterday and they didn't know it today. It is all a bunch of conjecture so far. There was Jim Whathisface (an idiot) and an anon source from CNN. Neither source is credible on it's face so it is anyone's guess.
 
NonoBadDog said:
Monte, I agree with you on the existence of bias from Fox but maybe not to the degree that you believe. I never take Fox news at face value. I think all news organizations are bias so I try to look for the original source.
But did you really just use Mediamatters as a source?
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 Really? About validity? Really?
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Even a blind chipmunk finds an acorn once in a while.
 
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