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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    NY Post said it best, It is time to bomb ISIS.
    How many more dead civilians and enemies are we prepared to make in the process. And, why do people refuse to focus on failed US policies that create the problems we keep having to address. If it wasn't a matter of life, it would be laughable watching the insanity of US policy in the region. Yes, by its very strictest definition, repeating failed policy expecting a different outcome.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    How many more dead civilians and enemies are we prepared to make in the process. And, why do people refuse to focus on failed US policies that create the problems we keep having to address. If it wasn't a matter of life, it would be laughable watching the insanity of US policy in the region. Yes, by its very strictest definition, repeating failed policy expecting a different outcome.
    People like us have zero say about how our government conducts itself outside of our shores. We have to live with the decisions made. ISIS wants to kill us. They would cut both of our heads off in front of our family and loved ones, man. Perhaps because of past mistakes we're where we are at now, but when the enemy is at the gate you don't argue about how they got there but how you plan on defending you & yours. Why? There is no reverse gear or pause button in life.

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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    People like us have zero say about how our government conducts itself outside of our shores. We have to live with the decisions made. ISIS wants to kill us. They would cut both of our heads off in front of our family and loved ones, man. Perhaps because of past mistakes we're where we are at now, but when the enemy is at the gate you don't argue about how they got there but how you plan on defending you & yours. Why? There is no reverse gear or pause button in life.
    Fine. After this conflict, can we all agree that decades of failed policy including support of jihadist groups has caused the fighting we've been involved in, and has created much of the hate for America. No, that won't happen, far too few people are willing to admit this fact. Did you know that 55 years ago Eisenhower commissioned his NST to produce a report on why it is that the people of the Middle East hate America so? And did you know that their report fingered US policies in the region, like the CIA sponsored coup that overthrew the elected government of Iran, installing the Shah? If America doesn't stop ****ing with these people, one of these days they will succeed.

    Interestingly enough, it was Eisenhower's doctrine that was a complete disaster. Supporting, or not supporting countries based upon his feeling of whether or not they leaned toward communism rather then on there own merits.
    Last edited by Montecresto; 08-21-14 at 06:17 PM.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    Oh a golf joke. Racist.
    LOL, the golf pun was actually unintentional. Use that phrase all the time.

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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, I went with what one of the New Agencies that when they Report, all others get theirs from them. The other being the AP. So if you want to fault for me going with the norm. Thats on you. But then again.....going by what Reuters reported, Did you want to say that's what Reuters was reporting or that I got what Reuters was reporting wrong?


    Looks like the AP got it wrong to.....huh?


    Obama: US won't stop confronting Islamic State.....

    Associated Press 8 hours ago

    President Barack Obama says the United States will continue to confront Islamic State extremists despite the brutal murder of journalist James Foley.

    Obama says the Islamic State abducts women and children, and tortures, rapes, enslaves and kills people. He said the Islamic State targets Christians and other minorities and aims to commit genocide.....snip~

    Obama: US won't stop confronting Islamic State


    What happened.....they didn't use terrorist either? Plus their is 2 hrs older than Reuters? Imagine that!

    Also Read my first post to any claim.

    Oh and skimming news sites.....when I work in the industry is the name of the game. But.....then can you explain why a Political Site doesn't have up a Speech by the President. When its been out for the last 8 hrs?
    I fault you for claiming that the President did not use a word that occurred in the first sentence. If you want accuracy go straight to the source instead of being intellectually lazy

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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    How many more dead civilians and enemies are we prepared to make in the process.
    Yeah, why risk civilian casualties while seeking to disrupt a group that's straight up slaughtering them by the thousands? It's also safe to say that any that would take offense to our campaign against ISIS would not prove friendly to our interests to begin with.

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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    NY Post said it best, It is time to bomb ISIS.
    I agree, but that is far easier said than done:

    ISIS is basically a bunch of fanatics riding around in Mad Max modified nissan pick up trucks. They can be very hard to find when mixed in urban areas- and ISIS is very aware of drones, cell phone tracing, and laser guided bombs.

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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    I fault you for claiming that the President did not use a word that occurred in the first sentence. If you want accuracy go straight to the source instead of being intellectually lazy
    Well, if you can't figure out about the AP and Reuters.....that's on you. Same deal goes for putting up Breaking News. As when one is looking at breaking news or Hot news.....it sure isn't coming from the White House. Which is why you didn't want to play the mind game with what was actually posted.
    Last edited by MMC; 08-21-14 at 07:40 PM.

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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Well, considering that he went straight to the golf course after this presser I'd say....

    meh.

    A brief work break, and President Obama resumes vacation - The Martha's Vineyard Times

    Well he still knows there are other American hostages out there.....With what he said, if they heard it. Maybe it will give them some hope.

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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
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    So what do you think.....maybe this finally got to him. He pretty much told these terrorists we will do what we have to do. What say ye?
    Apart from what you are implying, Obama has been aggressive fighting terrorists (I don't have to mention bin Laden.) Obama has used drones much more against terrorists than his predecessor.

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