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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    His largest mistake is trying to get along with the republicans. He should have done more to advance his agenda before the 2010 election.
    As expected…. the normal "but he isn't perfect" but can not follow up those words with anything but a lame jab at the other side…

    Please, list off some of his mistakes and why they were mistakes.
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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Feel free to list his mistakes and why they are considered mistakes.
    Feel free to list Bush's mistakes if you dare or maybe you don't think he made any?

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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Feel free to list Bush's mistakes if you dare or maybe you don't think he made any?
    You attempt to derail and change the subject has failed. Let the guy answer the question, he said Obama has made mistakes, I'd like to hear them.
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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    Silly boy!
    It's much easier to step aside, let the CoC and military act, and then critique their actions with 20-20 hindsight.
    This tactic works well for both parties.

    Politically, I agree, but what is happening there should, and I say "should" with my penis emptying into a strong head wind, transcend politics. One of the biggest complaints I have with both parties is this incessant need to one-up the other guy, regardless of whether or not the country is better off for it. People say no boots on the ground.. Well, there is an old saying (I think it was Marv Levy) that goes something like this: "As soon as I start listening to the fans, it won't be long before I'm in the stands with them". Obama, "should" realize the threat these animals pose to all of the West, and be damned if American low-information voters disagree. The longer we wait, the harder and more challenging it will become. I want to tear my hair out when I see these former military generals and ex CIA officials say no boots on the ground, because I know, I just know that from a military standpoint, that is exactly what we'll need to do to end this Islamist terrorist state.


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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    You attempt to derail and change the subject has failed. Let the guy answer the question, he said Obama has made mistakes, I'd like to hear them.
    Your obvious hypocrisy is duly noted. Why do you think Bush could do no wrong?

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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Your obvious hypocrisy is duly noted. Why do you think Bush could do no wrong?
    Your attempt to derail and change the subject has yet again failed.

    The discussion was not about Bush, and your claims as to my thoughts on him are (no surprise here) incorrect. So let's get back to letting Texmex provide us with that list.
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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I want to tear my hair out when I see these former military generals and ex CIA officials say no boots on the ground, because I know, I just know that from a military standpoint, that is exactly what we'll need to do to end this Islamist terrorist state.
    Tim-
    And I would say we have boots on the ground.
    Although the Iraqi army folded when confronted with the ISIS, the Kurds, for example, ARE willing to fight the ISIS.
    Our air power will, hopefully, carry the day.
    No matter how cynical I become toward politicians, it's never enough.

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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    And I would say we have boots on the ground.
    Although the Iraqi army folded when confronted with the ISIS, the Kurds, for example, ARE willing to fight the ISIS.
    Our air power will, hopefully, carry the day.
    Air power will stop their advances but the Iraqi's must step up to rid the captured cities of the ISIS disease. We spent 10 years and billions to train them, it is time for them to be men. We can't protect them forever.

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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Politically, I agree, but what is happening there should, and I say "should" with my penis emptying into a strong head wind, transcend politics. One of the biggest complaints I have with both parties is this incessant need to one-up the other guy, regardless of whether or not the country is better off for it. People say no boots on the ground.. Well, there is an old saying (I think it was Marv Levy) that goes something like this: "As soon as I start listening to the fans, it won't be long before I'm in the stands with them". Obama, "should" realize the threat these animals pose to all of the West, and be damned if American low-information voters disagree. The longer we wait, the harder and more challenging it will become. I want to tear my hair out when I see these former military generals and ex CIA officials say no boots on the ground, because I know, I just know that from a military standpoint, that is exactly what we'll need to do to end this Islamist terrorist state.


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    And what about the Iraqi's we spent 10 years training? Why is it not worth their effort to fight for there own country?

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    Re: Obama: U.S. will be relentless with Islamic State after Beheading.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Your attempt to derail and change the subject has yet again failed.

    The discussion was not about Bush, and your claims as to my thoughts on him are (no surprise here) incorrect. So let's get back to letting Texmex provide us with that list.
    Any discussion of Iraq must include Bush no matter how much you want to avoid it. I hope you agree that Bush broke Iraq and did a very bad job fixing his mess. That will never go away. Obama did it Bush's way for 6 years and now that it has failed, Obama has just begun to make his own plan. We will see how he does in the next few years. I doubt it will be worse than Bush did.
    Last edited by iguanaman; 08-21-14 at 03:58 PM.

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