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Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150:507]

Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Buck Ewer said:
What " lynch mob"?
Did you see anyone with a rope?
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Hard to pick him out of the crowd. What I am seeing is the crowd behind the guy holding the rope cheering him on.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Now you can read my subconscious thoughts? Was I hypnotized?
We have yet to hear Wilson's version of events. His report on the incident has still not been released contrary to Missouri state law... why do you suppose that is?
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Gotta wait for all of the evidence to come in before he can make a statement.

That's the only way to craft a good lie.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Buck Ewer said:
We have yet to hear Wilson's version of events. His report on the incident has still not been released contrary to Missouri state law... why do you suppose that is?
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The 5th Amendment?
 
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shrubnose said:
Get back with me in 30-years and tell me all about it.

Right now I'm not buying what you're trying to sell.


"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
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No biggy. If that belief is what lets you sleep better at night, good for you. Life goes on as will the country.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Buck Ewer said:
Conflicting testimony needs to be weighed by a jury and Judge, not by press conferences and newsmen...
There is nothing in this evidence that is cut and dry.
Wilson must be charged so that we can find out what is the truth and what is not, in a trial.
If Wilson is not charged we will have a world of hurt on our hands because of the appearance of impropriety.
No one will be willing to just forget about this.
Is that what you want?
Do you believe that is in the best interests of Ferguson?
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You do not CHARGE someone with a crime unless the evidence warrants a charge. That is not how the legal system works. There has to be sufficient evidence first and that is determined by the investigation. The investigation is ongoing at this point and a charge will be issued only if there is sufficient evidence to warrant it.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Conflicting testimony needs to be weighed by a jury and Judge,
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Not when opposing evidence is unreliable and all other evidence supports one side.
That is just absurd.


Buck Ewer said:
There is nothing in this evidence that is cut and dry.
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Wrong.


Buck Ewer said:
Wilson must be charged so that we can find out what is the truth and what is not, in a trial.
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Wrong. You do not charge folks where the evidence shows they acted appropriately.
The shooting should have went to a review board first.


Buck Ewer said:
If Wilson is not charged we will have a world of hurt on our hands because of the appearance of impropriety.
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Bs. The evidence dictates reality.
There would have been no such appearance.You thinking so is absurd.


Buck Ewer said:
No one will be willing to just forget about this.
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Nonsense.


Buck Ewer said:
Do you believe that is in the best interests of Ferguson?
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It is about the evidence. Not with a portion of the community's ignorance and inability to deal with reality.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

contrapositive said:
Oh! Oh! I saw hundreds rioting, looting and hurling objects at the police officers, all crying for Wilson to be convicted. I saw reports of gunfire within the crowd. I saw graffiti such as "Snitches get stitches." I saw numerous death threats.

Does that count, or
do we still need a rope?
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How do you lynch someone without a rope?

Fill us in.
 
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Excon said:
Holy ****! Is that what I said?
Or did I say that such information is the same that has been released?

Check yourself.
Do you really think that the Chief is going to purposely release false info? If you think that, your thoughts are illogical to an extreme.
He may have been mistaken at one point, but he wasn't purposely releasing false info.
Especially as we know that at some point the Officer's account will be available.
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The Federal investigation will reveal that...
Those Feds don't miss much...
I'll bet Jackson is soiling his pants about now.
 
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BretJ said:
No biggy. If that belief is what lets you sleep better at night, good for you.
Life goes on as will the country.
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I've been saying the same thing for a long time.

The USA survived without the Whigs, and it'll survive without the GOP if it has to.

Wait and see.




There are a lot of good people in the GOP, but they're letting some other people run the party.
 
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Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

contrapositive said:
Oh! Oh! I saw hundreds rioting, looting and hurling objects at the police officers, all crying for Wilson to be convicted. I saw reports of gunfire within the crowd. I saw graffiti such as "Snitches get stitches." I saw numerous death threats.

Does that count, or do we still need a rope?
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There have been lots of calls for shooting looters on sight as well.
The rope would make it a "lynch mob"...Your words.
 
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Tettsuo said:
Again, you're not correct. You don't drop your head until you're in range to do so. If you do, you run the risk of not seeing your target move. I'm hoping you played football before... if so, just think about when you drop your head to actually tackle someone. You keep your eyes on the target, head up... not up high, but your eyes locked on your target.

The last thing you want is to get juked and end up on your face.
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I am not incorrect. You are bent at the waist, which lowers your head, and puts it in a downward angle relative to normal upright stance regardless of not being parallel to the ground. You generally don't get shot in the face when performing a tackle in any sport, so what occurs to the head position after that occurs is purely supposition. It is reasonable to speculate that it forced his head down, or that he may have been falling at the time the final shot struck the top of his head.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
The Federal investigation will reveal that...
Those Feds don't miss much...
I'll bet Jackson is soiling his pants about now.
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Which Jackson? Don't see either one doing that but maybe you have an inside scoop we don't know about.
 
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BretJ said:
Why do people seem to highlight the fact that the was a teen or unarmed? Do either of those facts indicate he was not a danger to someone? He was a very large human capable of killing someone without being "armed". So what if he was a teen or "unarmed"?
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In case you didn't notice ...there has been a pattern.
 
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shrubnose said:
By who?

If someone has marijuana in their system is that a valid reason to shoot and kill them? If so a lot of people in the USA need to stay off of the streets.
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No, it's not, if you're talking about some stoner sitting on a park bench minding his own damn business. Relaying that it was reported that he had marijuana in his system was not intended to serve as justification for the shooting. As part of the bigger picture, though, it's relevant.
 
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shrubnose said:
How do you lynch someone without a rope?

Fill us in.
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A lynching is an extra-legal trial. It is a violent punishment or execution, without due process, for real or alleged crimes.

Wiki, it is defined as: "any act of violence inflicted by a mob upon the body of another person which results in the death of the person," with a "mob" being defined as "the assemblage of two or more persons, without color or authority of law, for the premeditated purpose and with the premeditated intent of committing an act of violence upon the person of another".

Sigh. Keep up.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
The Federal investigation will reveal that...
Those Feds don't miss much...
I'll bet Jackson is soiling his pants about now.
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:doh

You ain't gonna hear anything from them, just like you haven't heard from them on Zimmerman.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Buck Ewer said:
We only want to see a murder suspect charged with murder so that he can have his day in court.
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He will be charged with murder if there is sufficient evidence, not because someone wants to push and demagogue a particular narrative for a political agenda. Which is disgusting by the way.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Buck Ewer said:
Now you can read my subconscious thoughts? Was I hypnotized?
We have yet to hear Wilson's version of events. His report on the incident has still not been released contrary to Missouri state law... why do you suppose that is?
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Wow.

No, it's quite clear because you have already concluded his guilt. Stop making such ridiculous representations of my arguments. Your comments display your wanton disregard for and lack of knowledge of the legal system. And the report was released last friday...

The main point of this all is that you cannot make a definitive conclusion on what happened at this moment in time, which is something you are doing right now. We need to wait for ballistics, toxicology, etc.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
All other things being equal?
Yes.
By taking the element of racial bias out of the situation you do not make the actual case look any less racially motivated. You only make it look worse.
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By comparing widely disparate scenarios you only make yourself look worse. Holmes wasn't facing a lone police officer suffering from an orbital blowout fracture he had just inflicted on that officer in an assault.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
In case you didn't notice ...there has been a pattern.
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I have seen a pattern. Describing someone as an unarmed teen as if those facts do not make them a threat to someones life. It is a way to appeal to emotion rather than reality.
 
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BretJ said:
I have seen a pattern. Describing someone as an unarmed teen as if those facts do not make them a threat to someones life. It is a way to appeal to emotion rather than reality.
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and ignores the fact that he had inflicted an orbital blowout fracture on the armed officer. So, among other things, you have an "unarmed teen" willing to assault armed police officer. I think it safe to assume that Brown was not acting rationally to say the least and that the officer had reason to assume Brown intended to do him grievous bodily harm.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Buck Ewer said:
Does not apply here.
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If the officer feared he might incriminate himself (and such a fear would be very reasonable), he has a constitutional right not to make a statement.

Of course if he already has, then the PD should release it according to the norms of law.
 
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