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Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150:507]

Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

No.
Lethal force imparted on an incapacitated unconscious person is murder.
Even if that person was attacking seconds before.

This is nonsense. Once Wilson began to use his weapon to stop the alleged attacker the very intent was to incapacitate Brown and the risk of death was very great. That happens often when you empty half a clip of bullets into someone. There was no time to decide in the few seconds over which this happened whether or not the kill shot was indeed necessary to completely stop an assailant.

I would argue the officer did not even know the last shot would be fatal, or that it would enter the skull. I imagine if the attacker was beginning to fall forward, continued shots at center mass explains the fatal wound.

The question is not should he or should he not have shot one less bullet.

The question is was he justified in using lethal force against a perceived threat.

As I said earlier, I will not make that judgement for myself until all the facts are out.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

:lamo :lamo :lamo

If I couldn't come up with something better than that, I wouldn't post at all.

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I take it you've never tackled anyone.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

If it takes 6-bullets to stop an unarmed man, how many bullets does it take to stop an armed man?

Any ideas?

Holmes was armed to the teeth with several weapons and he was taken into custody without so much as a scratch.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

If it takes 6-bullets to stop an unarmed man, how many bullets does it take to stop an armed man?

Any ideas?

how easy is it to hit a moving target using only one of your eyes and in a great deal of pain?
 
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Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

If it takes 6-bullets to stop an unarmed man, how many bullets does it take to stop an armed man?

Any ideas?

It can take 1 round or it could take 100. Everyone is different. It may take the human body quite a while to even register being hit and react. The shooter may believe he has missed and is going to keep shooting until the threat is no longer there. There are all kinds of articles and studies on ballistic affects on the human body. Television and Hollywood has given a lot of people some bad information. Check out this article.

Why one cop carries 145 rounds of ammo on the job
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

How about that. No official report yet. All we have is heresay and factoids released by interested parties without any sort of validation, verification or how the facts all fit together. Don't you think that the right thing to do is wait until the actual facts come out and we get the big picture and a full understanding of what happened, we refrain from being part and parcel to an ole' time lynching there Buck? Or are you happy living with the same thought process that justified lynching black men based on heresay?
Why are you so anxious to see a murder suspect go free without a trial?
All anyone is asking is that Wilson be charged. Then we will have a trial to weigh all the evidence in the justice system, not in press conferences..
BTW, if you think for a moment that this is not going to trial ...you are delusional.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Holmes was armed to the teeth with several weapons and he was taken into custody without so much as a scratch.

Yeah, but he was white....which is the only other difference between that scenario and this one.

:roll:
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown

Revealed?
Oh really?
Do tell us how was this " revealed"?
Did someone leak the police report???
NOT!
You already know.
And obviously are just playing a game again.
You can't even address the videos that have shown you to be wrong.

So tell me. WHat about the revealed informatiopn are you confused about?
The actual actions are corroborated by Dorian the cohort. The Officer went on his way and then backed up. (which you were wrong about)
So what about that which was revealed do you not comprehend?
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Immediately before this shot, he was hit in the face...the force of the shot certainly could have pushed his already tilted head down farther. If he was charging at the time, he would have been essentially charging to tackle...so he would have been leaning forward, bent at the waste at the very least.

Or the more logical scenario, given the angles and re-entry wounds, is that Brown was lying on the street face down when both shots were fired.
The aim wasn't too good when he was standing and moving.
 
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bent at the waist, head angled down. Throw in a recent gunshot to the cheek and what could have happened?
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

We only want to see a murder suspect charged with murder so that he can have his day in court.

Funny. Not what I am seeing based on the tone of some of these posts. Could be wrong I guess....
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Or the more logical scenario, given the angles and re-entry wounds, is that Brown was lying on the street face down when both shots were fired.
The aim wasn't too good when he was standing and moving.

Possible, but not "more logical". He could simply had been falling forward from the previous shot.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Holmes was armed to the teeth with several weapons and he was taken into custody without so much as a scratch.

Holmes didn't resist. Believe me, they wanted him to, Bad analogy.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

No, what you've done is already determined him to be an evil murderer "pig" who executed a teen by firing 6 shots into him, in broad daylight, in front of his friend, after they refused to get off the street for jaywalking, without giving him the due process of law.
I present the case that these could be the facts.
I never called for a lynching.
Only that with this much evidence he should be charged with murder.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

If Michael Brown had been white, just assaulted a store clerk during a robbery and then assaulted the police officer that shot him....would you guys also automatically assume the cop was guilty of murder?
 
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The dude weighed 300 pounds and was under the influence of drugs. The last two rounds killed him, so obviously 6 rounds was the magic number.

So now you have the toxicology reports?
Wow!
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

So now you have the toxicology reports?
Wow!

It's been reported that there was marijuana in his system.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Why are you so anxious to see a murder suspect go free without a trial?
All anyone is asking is that Wilson be charged. Then we will have a trial to weigh all the evidence in the justice system, not in press conferences..
BTW, if you think for a moment that this is not going to trial ...you are delusional.

If the grand jury finds the facts and circumstances of the shooting warrant charges and a trial, then it should go to trial. That is how it works or at least how it is supposed to work. He deserves that respect. If not, you are acting as judge, jury and executioner which oddly enough, seems to be what the lynch mob wants to hang him for.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

A well placed gesture by an expert witness can say a thousand words, in no uncertain terms.
First of all, what you have said is not what they have said.
Secondly, what you have said is contradicted by actual eyewitness account.
Nothing you can or could suggest can change that.
Brown was running at the Officer when the Officer was firing at him.
Again, nothing can change that account accept the witness.

And on top of what has been revealed by the Chief we have the following information.


It is why we hear there are 12 witnesses that agree with the hearsay account that was reported.
This is why Don Lemon has reported that Official sources have confirmed that that hearsay account is accurate.

So the likely hood that what has been revealed is false by the Chief is just absurd. And opposing it is illogical.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Clearly you haven't either. You don't drop your head until you're clear you're going to hit your target... and that's not more than 2 feet away.

You are leaning forward which puts your head at a downward angle, it's completely reasonable that his head was then forced further down by the previous shot.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

Clearly you haven't either. You don't drop your head until you're clear you're going to hit your target... and that's not more than 2 feet away.
Are you suggesting Brown was knowledgeable about such?
And that he always did so?

I hope not.
 
Re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

How about that. No official report yet. All we have is heresay and factoids released by interested parties without any sort of validation, verification or how the facts all fit together. Don't you think that the right thing to do is wait until the actual facts come out and we get the big picture and a full understanding of what happened, we refrain from being part and parcel to an ole' time lynching there Buck? Or are you happy living with the same thought process that justified lynching black men based on heresay?
The police report SHOULD have been a matter of public record on the day it was filed. That is Missouri state law.
I believe the report is being held" so that it can be re-written to fit the evidence and get a murderer free.
BTW I am not alone in this suspicion.
This is exactly what Holder and the Feds are looking at.
 
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