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    re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Huh, I thought the eye socket injury was a complete fabrication (or so I was told).
    No, apparently not. I was the first one to post on it yesterday, but Redress informed me it wasn't from a reliable source, so I dropped it.

    My brother and father were 6'4" -225+lbs and could kill a grown man with their fists, which makes the threat to Wilson much more credible. My father knocked me out cold with a glancing left hook and my brother about tore my head off with an open hand. It's like getting hit with a large bat from a man that size. The Grand Jury will have basically one thing to discern, did the officer believe his life was endangered at the time of the shoot. If they can't conclude that he was definitely NOT in danger, then they shouldn't be able to indict.
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    re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    The officer is white, the 'victim' was black. Thus the officer is guilty. That is the only information they want about this case, all other bits are not relevant.



    All FACTS are relevant.

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    re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

    There were no abrasions found on Browns knuckles. Such a blow would certainly render broken skin on the knuckles.
    Wilson screamed at the boys to get the **** on the sidewalk. They did not immediately comply so Wilson threw the car door open to hit Brown with it ...Brown pushed it back and the frame of the door hit Wilson on the head around his eye as he was exiting.
    Dazed for a moment Wilson sat in the car and pulled out his gun shooting the first shot as the kids walked away.
    Wilson, injured and fuming, exited the car again, shooting in a rage until he emptied his gun into Brown as he turned, surrendered and fell to the ground...
    The last shot entering the top of Brown's head as he lay on the street.
    This was a punitive vengeful murder, committed in a rage and will never be construed by any jury as self defense or justified.
    The last shot to the top of Brown's head was the murder bullet.
    No man face down on the street, with five gunshots, one to his face, can be seen as a threat to anyone.
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    re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The cop, who put 6-bullets into an unarmed man, started something that he wasn't able to handle.

    The world would be better off if he had called in sick and stayed home that day.
    If his orbital socket was indeed broken by Brown and Brown was indeed charging him, I would say he handled it pretty much perfectly.

    But I will await the evidence. Now it is too unclear to know for sure.

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    re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source | Fox News





    If this article is accurate, they're going to have a hard time indicting Officer Wilson. If the dash and body cams have any footage, along with testimonies and corroborating evidence that exonerate him, will this become a 'flash point' for more riots/protests?
    Literally breaking someone's face is grounds for being shot to death.

    It will be a miscarriage of justice if the officer is prosecuted based off what's known already.

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    re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

    Quote Originally Posted by cAPSLOCK View Post
    If his orbital socket was indeed broken by Brown and Brown was indeed charging him, I would say he handled it pretty much perfectly.

    But I will await the evidence.
    Now it is too unclear to know for sure.



    I agree, there's a lot that we don't know.

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    re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    There were no abrasions found on Browns knuckles. Such a blow would certainly render broken skin on the knuckles.
    Not certain. Plus you explain a scenario which may work below.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Wilson screamed at the boys to get the **** on the sidewalk. They did not immediately comply so Wilson threw the car door open to hit Brown with it ...Brown pushed it back and the frame of the door hit Wilson on the head around his eye as he was exiting.
    Then that is serious assault on a police officer, and if performed with enough force to break the officers skull bones it justifies lethal force. Period.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Dazed for a moment Wilson sat in the car and pulled out his gun shooting the first shot as the kids walked away.
    Wilson, injured and fuming, exited the car again, shooting in a rage until he emptied his gun into Brown as he turned, surrendered and fell to the ground...
    The last shot entering the top of Brown's head as he lay on the street.
    This was a punitive vengeful murder, committed in a rage and will never be construed by any jury as self defense or justified.
    The last shot to the top of Brown's head was the murder bullet.
    No man face down on the street, with five gunshots, one to his face, can be seen as a threat to anyone.
    This is ALL conjecture. If the dead man was charging the officer then a fatal shot to the head likely happened as he was going down from the other shots. And yes, a dead man is no longer a threat. That too is meaningless without the context of what was happening right before his death. Lethal force is used to specifically eliminate a threat.
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    re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Literally breaking someone's face is grounds for being shot to death.

    It will be a miscarriage of justice if the officer is prosecuted based off what's known already.
    No breaking someones face is not grounds for killing someone, defending your life with deadly force from a continuing threat is.
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    re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    No breaking someones face is not grounds for killing someone, defending your life with deadly force from a continuing threat is.
    We're in agreement and have been since before you quoted me

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    re: Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown[W:150]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    There were no abrasions found on Browns knuckles. Such a blow would certainly render broken skin on the knuckles.
    Wilson screamed at the boys to get the **** on the sidewalk. They did not immediately comply so Wilson threw the car door open to hit Brown with it ...Brown pushed it back and the frame of the door hit Wilson on the head around his eye as he was exiting.
    Dazed for a moment Wilson sat in the car and pulled out his gun shooting the first shot as the kids walked away.
    Wilson, injured and fuming, exited the car again, shooting in a rage until he emptied his gun into Brown as he turned, surrendered and fell to the ground...
    The last shot entering the top of Brown's head as he lay on the street.
    This was a punitive vengeful murder, committed in a rage and will never be construed by any jury as self defense or justified.
    The last shot to the top of Brown's head was the murder bullet.
    No man face down on the street, with five gunshots, one to his face, can be seen as a threat to anyone.
    Wow buddy, that's some story. I guess that's the only interpretation of the story that (a) somewhat fits the autopsy, (b) supports the prosecution's eyewitnesses and (c) will get Wilson convicted of murder. Too bad it has no basis in medical science and shows a wanton disregard for the salient facts available.

    Officer Wilson's eye injury is the evidence of struggle. One punch to the eye socket does not necessarily leave the hand with an abrasion. Punch a wall very hard (a harder surface than Wilson's eye). It will not leave you with an abrasion. You also have fabricated a part of the story where you the door frame hit Wilson (not a single eyewitness suggested this) in order to explain Wilson's eye wound.

    Your story also relies on significant speculations about Officer Wilson's character. Care to substantiate them?

    Obviously no man face down on the street with five gunshots, one to his face can be seen as a threat (Hint: He's dead). But before that, he was a 6'4, 300lb giant who had committed strong-arm robbery, assaulted Officer Wilson, attempted to take his gun, and bum-rushed him. He was a threat to the storekeeper and if the autopsy and unwitting youtube eyewitnesses (who have no reason to lie) are anything to go by, a threat to the officer.

    "Baden said there was no sign of a physical struggle on Brown’s body. But he said the officer’s injuries would also have to be considered before any conclusions are drawn, as would the clothing worn by both Brown and officer Wilson."
    Medical examiner: Brown had marijuana in system

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