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Bullying husbands face jail under new proposals by Theresa May

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Bullying husbands face jail under new proposals by Theresa May - Telegraph

HUSBANDS who keep their wives downtrodden could face prison under new plans set out by the Government today.
Theresa May, the Home Secretary, published proposals for a new offence of “domestic abuse” designed to criminalise men who bully, cause psychological harm or deny money to their partners.


The law would make the worst cases of non-violent “controlling behaviour” a jailable offence.


Exact terms of the offence are yet to be defined, but it could involve humiliating, frightening or intimidating a partner, keeping them away from friends or family or restricting their access to money.
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This is horrible news for Muslim men in the U.K.

It's also patently ridiculous. When is it the responsibility for the woman to walk away from the relationship?

And does this apply to wives who "control" their husbands?
 
Erod said:
Bullying husbands face jail under new proposals by Theresa May - Telegraph



This is horrible news for Muslim men in the U.K.

It's also patently ridiculous. When is it the responsibility for the woman to walk away from the relationship?

And does this apply to wives who "control" their husbands?
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What about Wives who bully their husbands? Not sure if this is going to fly unless it goes towards both sexes. Also I forsee problems in trying to prove that such an abuse actually exists when the wife doesn't report it.
 
How about the women/wives who are control freaks? How about putting their fat asses in jail, for spending money without consulting their husbands, denying their husbands sex and making unilateral decisions?
 
TheNextEra said:
What about Wives who bully their husbands? Not sure if this is going to fly unless it goes towards both sexes. Also I forsee problems in trying to prove that such an abuse actually exists when the wife doesn't report it.
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OMG! :thumbs:
 
Emotional damage should not be a crime, imho.

How would you even prove half of this stuff anyway?
 
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TheNextEra said:
What about Wives who bully their husbands?
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Get this.

So it's been proven that wife on husband domestic abuse is a thing... k?

So me and my wife took our son for his 6 month checkup or whatever it was.

And once we'd given him his injections and done some tests and what have you, the female doctor asks me to leave the room with my son so she can speak to my wife.

Some of it was about asking questions for post partem depression but at one point she flat out asked me whether I was abusing her without any indication said thing was happening... what if I was the one being abused and not only am I not being asked but I'm kicked out of the room in totality.

And the funniest thing was I didn't even think about it that way until I told some people and a woman pointed it out to me.
 
TheNextEra said:
What about Wives who bully their husbands? Not sure if this is going to fly unless it goes towards both sexes. Also I forsee problems in trying to prove that such an abuse actually exists when the wife doesn't report it.
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Most of this stuff you can't even prove if she did report it. How is she going to prove he frightened her? Really, how do you prove that after the fact? She would need witnesses, and what are the chances there isn't one to be found? If she does have witnesses it's just their word against his. The only way to avoid this would be cameras, but then you are video taping him without permission and that is illegal too. So yeah, it's bull**** all around.
 
Henrin said:
Most of this stuff you can't even prove if she did report it. How is she going to prove he frightened her? Really, how do you prove that after the fact? She would need witnesses, and what are the chances there isn't one to be found? If she does have witnesses it's just their word against his. The only way to avoid this would be cameras, but then you are video taping him without permission and that is illegal too. So yeah, it's bull**** all around.
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Well this is the UK so not sure if video taping someone without their permission is illegal. However, you are correct it is very hard to prove.
 
Erod said:
Bullying husbands face jail under new proposals by Theresa May - Telegraph



This is horrible news for Muslim men in the U.K.

It's also patently ridiculous. When is it the responsibility for the woman to walk away from the relationship?

And does this apply to wives who "control" their husbands?
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On the surface the idea of trying to promote respect seems like common sense.

But here:

Theresa May, the Home Secretary, published proposals for a new offence of “domestic abuse” designed to criminalise men who bully, cause psychological harm or deny money to their partners.

The law would make the worst cases of non-violent “controlling behaviour” a jailable offence.

Exact terms of the offence are yet to be defined, but it could involve humiliating, frightening or intimidating a partner, keeping them away from friends or family or restricting their access to money.
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Quite a bit of this above could be self-imposed if she's dealing with psychological and emotional issues.

And in the US a HUGE number of women (and men) have psychological and emotional issues that they're actively seeking help for. So - for me, it would be a lot of 'sending innocent guys to jail who never did anything wrong - ever' all because 'their wives are depressed or manic'.
 
TheNextEra said:
Well this is the UK so not sure if video taping someone without their permission is illegal. However, you are correct it is very hard to prove.
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It's the UK, everything is illegal. Heck they banned the peter rabbit book because it had middle class rabbits in it. Common sense will take over and this will be reversed soon just like the myriad of stupid stuff the UK periodically seems to engage in.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Get this.

So it's been proven that wife on husband domestic abuse is a thing... k?

So me and my wife took our son for his 6 month checkup or whatever it was.

And once we'd given him his injections and done some tests and what have you, the female doctor asks me to leave the room with my son so she can speak to my wife.

Some of it was about asking questions for post partem depression but at one point she flat out asked me whether I was abusing her without any indication said thing was happening... what if I was the one being abused and not only am I not being asked but I'm kicked out of the room in totality.

And the funniest thing was I didn't even think about it that way until I told some people and a woman pointed it out to me.
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Well, as we move more and more to federalizing health care we're going to see more and more of this.
 
It's a full on nanny state, why would we expect anything less than full on nannying?
 
Lutherf said:
Well, as we move more and more to federalizing health care we're going to see more and more of this.
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Well this was in Canada through a private company that contracts out to the Provincial Healthcare system... so no.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Well this was in Canada through a private company that contracts out to the Provincial Healthcare system... so no.
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So what you're getting at is that this is something those of us in the lower 48 can look forward too as we move more and more to a centralized system?
 
Lutherf said:
So what you're getting at is that this is something those of us in the lower 48 can look forward too as we move more and more to a centralized system?
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No I'm saying has nothing to do with federalization.

Far from it.

In the NHS in England no one ever asked something like that to my mom who'd just had Twins.
 
From the OP...

Theresa May, the Home Secretary, published proposals for a new offence of “domestic abuse”
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Hopefully there are some in the UK government who haven't yet contracted "the stupid" and can block this.
 
Lutherf said:
So what you're getting at is that this is something those of us in the lower 48 can look forward too as we move more and more to a centralized system?
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No. This is already standard protocol at every clinic in the US that I've ever heard of or been to in the past decade. I have been asked every time I've gone for any reason, and so has every woman I know. The abuse question is omnipresent in any healthcare which involves women, private or not. This has nothing to do with "socialism."
 
I had one girlfriend that I lived with for about a year and a half that thought fist fighting was foreplay. She had four years of martial arts. The second fight I had to knock her cold because she wouldn't stop charging me and clipped me in the throat. After she came to she tried to get a gun out of the bedroom closet to shoot me with. I got out of that relationship right after the second fight. Something about crossing that line once that makes some folks think it is a precedence for bad behavior. There isn't a monopoly for nut cases when it comes to gender.
 
joG said:
At least you are safe from this politically incorrect punishment, if you stay single. ;)
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True. Of course, staying single benefits WOMEN as well, including -- but not limited to -- the huge benefit of freedom from bullying husbands. :)
 
Ocean007 said:
True. Of course, staying single benefits WOMEN as well, including -- but not limited to -- the huge benefit of freedom from bullying husbands. :)
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I've always wondered, what they saw in them.
 
joG said:
I've always wondered, what they saw in them.
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I have no idea. However, I think some bullies are very good at hiding their bullying -- and in many cases, abusive -- behaviors until after the wedding takes place and the women are legally bound to them. Then, of course, it is too late for the woman to simply walk away. She's legally stuck with the guy, and it's even worse for her if she has one or more kids with him.

Another great reason to remain single and childfree; not having to deal with such a nightmare on a daily basis.
 
Erod said:
Bullying husbands face jail under new proposals by Theresa May - Telegraph



This is horrible news for Muslim men in the U.K.

It's also patently ridiculous. When is it the responsibility for the woman to walk away from the relationship?

And does this apply to wives who "control" their husbands?
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https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...aw_on_Domestic_Abuse_-_A_Consultation_WEB.PDF

The proposed change in legislation applies to women who control their husbands just as much as men who control their wives
 
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