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    Re: Police officer appears to threaten journalist in Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I know what it is. Read my post again. That's why DAs don't file charges without enough evidence. Jeopardy is attached to every trial. They will wait until they have sufficient evidence to convict, which is why many times they will decline to prosecute, let the accused go, and then wait for more evidence and have the person re-arrested.
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    Re: Police officer appears to threaten journalist in Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I know what it is. Read my post again. That's why DAs don't file charges without enough evidence. Jeopardy is attached to every trial. They will wait until they have sufficient evidence to convict, which is why many times they will decline to prosecute, let the accused go, and then wait for more evidence and have the person re-arrested.
    Why would the prosecution even get involved if the police drop all charges before an arraignment? To what Hatuey was talking about, a DA would most likely never be a part of that process.
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    Re: Police officer appears to threaten journalist in Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    But if the police arrest someone and take them into custody but then they are later released with no charges and without an arraignment they are in fact innocent and were wrongly arrested, just like what Hatuey was talking about. He wasn't talking about deciding who goes to trial, he was talking about the police making a false arrest on an innocent person with no evidence or charges. You said as below, you are arrested and then the da decices if there is enough evidence to bring your case to trial. If you are arrested and the charges are dropped by the police, the DA will most likely not get involved so your reply to his statement is not always what happens and what he said is true. If you are falsely arrested you are innocent.
    Incorrect. If someone is arrested, and the court doesn't see sufficient evidence to keep the person for the time allowed by law to hold an accused person, that person will be let go. That in no way implies the person is innocent. That has nothing to do with "false arrest". That is the law of this land and how our justice system works. No, he was not correct.

    If the police drop the charges because they feel they arrested you incorrectly and know it, they will drop the charges because you are innocent. That isn't the same premise as "anyone who is arrested but let go is innocent".

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    Re: Police officer appears to threaten journalist in Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Incorrect. If someone is arrested, and the court doesn't see sufficient evidence to keep the person for the time allowed by law to hold an accused person, that person will be let go. That in no way implies the person is innocent. That has nothing to do with "false arrest". That is the law of this land and how our justice system works. No, he was not correct.

    If the police drop the charges because they feel they arrested you incorrectly and know it, they will drop the charges because you are innocent. That isn't the same premise as "anyone who is arrested but let go is innocent".
    Now I see where you're coming from. I was reading something else from it, my bad.
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    Re: Police officer appears to threaten journalist in Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Now I see where you're coming from. I was reading something else from it, my bad.
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    Re: Police officer appears to threaten journalist in Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    I watched Don Lemon get pushed by a cop yesterday for being where the cops had told him to be.

    The cops are making themselves look really bad. I'm sure somehow that's the media's fault.
    Not exactly but the cops are contending with a lot of "media" that is going their work with cell phones and pocket cameras. It's pretty difficult to pick them out from a casual observer if they're in the thick of things.

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    I want to expand on this a little.

    Along with the legitimate protesters in Ferguson there are, as we know, some folks who WANT there to be violence. Some of these folks, under the guise of "media" are instigating trouble just so that they can film it. That's a real problem for both the cops and the people who just want to have their voice heard because those antics really can't be separated from the rest of the protest.
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    Re: Police officer appears to threaten journalist in Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, because there's no way he would anything that makes that much sense.
    You thinking restricting 1st amendment rights is "sense"....that is freaking nonsensical and laughable.


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    Re: Police officer appears to threaten journalist in Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    You thinking restricting 1st amendment rights is "sense"....that is freaking nonsensical and laughable.
    The 1st Amendment doesn't give journalists to disobey lawful authority and interfere with a cop excuting his duty. Nor does it guarantee unlimited access to everything.
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    Re: Police officer appears to threaten journalist in Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lmao, telling someone you'll shoot them with a shell isn't a threat... brought you by: Pepper spray is just foodstuff.
    But it is foodstuff! Homer says so!

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    Re: Police officer appears to threaten journalist in Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ... you mean people taking these pictures?







    Think of that for a second, they're getting more access to terrorists and rebel fighters than they are to events happening at home and you're perfectly fine with that. Who is the true police state enabler?
    That proves nothing. Just because the last pic has an AP stamp doesn't mean an AP reporter took these (since no source is provide). It's more likely the people behind the cameras where part of the subjects. No Al Qaeda propaganda photos?
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    If certain gun guys are insulted by that? Good, they should be ashamed: the rest of US are sick and tired of having our intelligence insulted[/i].



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