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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    He shot an unarmed man. That's why the grand jury is hearing evidence.
    No it isn't for that reason.
    It is over the public outcry.
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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

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    The DA's presentation to the GJ matters, but not as much as the evidence.
    Now if he goes in there with the intent to get an indictment, he will not present all the evidence, nor does he have to. Of course that would likely end up like indicting a ham sandwich. It still wouldn't old mustard in Court. And would be a travesty of Justice.
    If the DA goes in there with an honest intent to let the GJ decide by presenting all the evidence, then it is highly unlikely they will return a true bill.
    Right. You haven't served on a Grand Jury. First of all, OF COURSE he's coming in there wanting an indictment, and believing there to be cause for one. Your second scenario never happens. And true bills are in the upper ninety percentile. So if this goes to a Grand Jury, there's a fewer than 5% chance for a no bill. Then you should know that the bar is lower for a GJ then a trial jury. The GJ needs only find probable cause while the trial jury needs to find beyond reasonable doubt. Do you know what percentage of GJ indictments end in acquittal in trial.
    Stop speaking about stuff you have no clue about.
    The prosecutor is not always seeking an indictment when presenting the GJ with the information. You saying otherwise is ridiculous.
    And this case is being motivated by public out cry, not the evidence. As the evidence clearly shows the shooting justified.
    And as for these type of stats, I have introduced that information on this forum a long time ago.

    So again:
    If he goes in there with the intent to get an indictment, he will not present all the evidence, nor does he have to.
    If the DA goes in there with an honest intent to let the GJ decide by presenting all the evidence, then it is highly unlikely they will return a true bill.
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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No it isn't for that reason.
    It is over the public outcry.
    The public outcry is going to guarantee a conviction, if not for murder, for civil rights violations by the Feds.
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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    I'm seeing Brown's parents all over tv. I'd LOVE to know why their son was living with his grandmother and not them, but I don't want to be called names, so let's all just pretend that's normal and these people had, you know, actual daily interaction with their child.

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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The public outcry is going to guarantee a conviction, if not for murder, for civil rights violations by the Feds.
    I realize you think that, but that is unlikely.
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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    Don't know if I'm allowed to participate in this thread. I didn't bring my tin foil hat.

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    Mornin Excon. Yeah I heard BO peep has sent Holder who has arrived in Missouri. "What".....is he there to make sure that BO gets the ruling they want?

    What do you think about the MS Media deflecting with this BS to cover BO Peep and all the Bad news coming his way?
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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Stop speaking about stuff you have no clue about.
    The prosecutor is not always seeking an indictment when presenting the GJ with the information. You saying otherwise is ridiculous.
    And this case is being motivated by public out cry, not the evidence. As the evidence clearly shows the shooting justified.
    And as for these type of stats, I have introduced that information on this forum a long time ago.

    So again:
    If he goes in there with the intent to get an indictment, he will not present all the evidence, nor does he have to.
    If the DA goes in there with an honest intent to let the GJ decide by presenting all the evidence, then it is highly unlikely they will return a true bill.
    So you know all the evidence that is being brought before the grand jury now? Wow... You really have an inside scoop on this. Or you're just being absurd.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    This is the second time where Obama and Holder have interjected themselves in a State Matter where they had no business sticking their noses in. Both times openly for the person who got shot and regardless of the circumstances or evidence or even common sense (that last part imo). Both times also have relatively the same theme, both shooters were considered "white" (even though we don't even know the race of the cop this time last I heard) and both off the dead people were black.

    Perhaps someone could refresh my memory. Has this ever happened or even something similar happened with any President and DOJ with in the last 40 years?

    anyways...back to work for me...lunch is over.
    ....er, civil rights violations are very much a federal issue...

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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    So you know all the evidence that is being brought before the grand jury now? Wow... You really have an inside scoop on this. Or you're just being absurd.

    The prosecutor will be bringing all the evidence to the GJ. Did I say I knew all of it?

    But of that we do know, it is in the Officer's favor. Do you really doubt that?

    Everything released or provided through other sources, except for the initial friend and cohorts statements (which not only sound, but have been proven by other evidence to be contrived), have all been in favor of the Officer.

    So instead of you engaging in your ridiculous and irrelevant antics of distraction, how about we go over each piece of the known evidence?
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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    ....er, civil rights violations are very much a federal issue...
    This has nothing to do with civil rights. Neither did the Z/T case. It has to do with whether one cop was in the wrong for shooting someone that either did or did not attack him. Or are you really trying to say that any and all murders/self defense cases are under the jurisdiction of the DOJ and Obama?
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