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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    It shouldn't be the least bit surprising that one of the goals of this administration is to federalize the criminal code. How else are they going to mete out "social justice" and ban guns?
    This is the second time where Obama and Holder have interjected themselves in a State Matter where they had no business sticking their noses in. Both times openly for the person who got shot and regardless of the circumstances or evidence or even common sense (that last part imo). Both times also have relatively the same theme, both shooters were considered "white" (even though we don't even know the race of the cop this time last I heard) and both off the dead people were black.

    Perhaps someone could refresh my memory. Has this ever happened or even something similar happened with any President and DOJ with in the last 40 years?

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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    It's the latter. Under the circumstances there is no way in hell there won't be an indictment. If the grand jury no bills what happened last week will look like a 4 year old's tea party.
    There in lies the catch 22. Either they don't proceed based on the evidence (if its solid in Wilson's defense, the FBI will come to the same conclusion), Ferguson is gonna burn. Or, the go forward knowing he'll be acquitted down the road, Ferguson is gonna burn when the verdict is reached. Either way, violence is likely. Frankly, National Guard in position, FBI there in full force, might be better off just yanking the band-aid off now.

    Orrrr, the evidence is there to counter Wilson's version and he is charged and sent to prison. In the mean time, Ferguson burns. Frankly, those that are stirring up trouble (not the peaceful protestors) don't really give a crap about this issue, they view it as an opportunity to get away with vandalism, robbery and other crimes.

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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    There in lies the catch 22. Either they don't proceed based on the evidence (if its solid in Wilson's defense, the FBI will come to the same conclusion), Ferguson is gonna burn. Or, the go forward knowing he'll be acquitted down the road, Ferguson is gonna burn when the verdict is reached. Either way, violence is likely. Frankly, National Guard in position, FBI there in full force, might be better off just yanking the band-aid off now.

    Orrrr, the evidence is there to counter Wilson's version and he is charged and sent to prison. In the mean time, Ferguson burns. Frankly, those that are stirring up trouble (not the peaceful protestors) don't really give a crap about this issue, they view it as an opportunity to get away with vandalism, robbery and other crimes.
    That assumes Wilson isn't convicted....or even indicted. I don't see ANY chance that there won't be an indictment.

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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    That assumes Wilson isn't convicted....or even indicted. I don't see ANY chance that there won't be an indictment.
    If the evidence doesn't support the indictment and politics doesn't interject, than he shouldn't be indicted. It all will depend on the evidence and there should be enough to go one way or the other.

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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    And if they indict him without proper cause, you've got a true race riot in the making. Because without cause, the one and only reason he'll be indicted will be because he's white.
    He shot an unarmed man. That's why the grand jury is hearing evidence.

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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    He shot an unarmed man. That's why the grand jury is hearing evidence.
    I agree.... In any shooting like this with the police, there should be a GJ hearing to identify evidence and justify the foundation for formal charges to be brought.
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    Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I agree.... In any shooting like this with the police, there should be a GJ hearing to identify evidence and justify the foundation for formal charges to be brought.
    The grand jury does neither of those things.

    They are presented evidence by the prosecutor, which might include a couple of witnesses, and asked for a no bill or true bill (no or yes to proceed with indictments).

    The prosecutor makes the decision whether or not they have sufficient evidence for a GJ true bill.

    The prosecutor also can decide not to file any charges if he is comfortable that no crime has been committed at all.

    All the GJ does is say yes or no.
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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    The grand jury does neither of those things.

    They are presented evidence by the prosecutor, which might include a couple of witnesses, and asked for a no bill or true bill (no or yes to proceed with indictments).

    The prosecutor makes the decision whether or not they have sufficient evidence for a GJ true bill.

    The prosecutor also can decide not to file any charges if he is comfortable that no crime has been committed at all.

    All the GJ does is say yes or no.
    Thank you for adding more detail to what I already said. I appreciate it.
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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    The process in the US is far different from Canada, but I can't help but feel that the speed at which this is going before a grand jury tells me that this is far more politics talking than justice being sought. It is not possible, considering the circumstances in Ferguson this past 10 days or so, for a proper and complete investigation having been conducted. It smacks of an expeditious way to appease the mob, to hell with the truth or justice.
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    Re: Grand Jury Could Hear Michael Brown Case Evidence Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    And who is going to riot over something like that?
    Not these folks.


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