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Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

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I read this thread and I think of the old Pluto cartoon (which they stole in ANIMAL HOUSE with Tom Hulce and a passed out girl at a frat party) with an angel and a devil on his shoulder giving him contradictory advice. It is indeed enticing to savor the just desserts that this piece of human waste got and probably deserved at least on some very base level. But we must listen to our better angels when exercising the powers of the state and resist such evil ourselves.
 
I may be in the minority here, but from my perspective if the state is going to create institutions within which it will house those who have committed crimes against society then those institutions should be governed by the laws of that society. If an inmate, regardless of how heinous the crime, is assaulted while in the care and custody of a state institution then that state institution bears some responsibility for the assault if the victim did not invite or otherwise cause the assault. It should be no different a matter of principle than if a citizen walked into a police station and the custodians of that station allowed circumstances whereby that citizen was assaulted. To believe otherwise is to believe that a sentence handed down by a jury and judge is insufficient punishment and anyone convicted is no longer entitled to human dignity.

The last part. The sentence was insufficient and it is being rectified by the inmates...
 
How could it possibly bring a smile to your face? Rape is ALWAYS disgusting.

The idea that he is getting justice can bring a smile to your face...

I would like to know how many of these prison rape proponents consider themselves 'Christians.'

Not me... I consider myself better than Christians.
 
The last part. The sentence was insufficient and it is being rectified by the inmates...

Bod, the guy wants a civil suit in which he'll ask for a lot of money that he knows that he'll never get. I'm thinking after the money is off the table he'll attempt to negotiate for a 250 refill prescription of Valium to ease his anxiety while he's being raped for the next 20 years. He might want to consider negotiating for some KY to go with the Valium.
 
Bod, the guy wants a civil suit in which he'll ask for a lot of money that he knows that he'll never get. I'm thinking after the money is off the table he'll attempt to negotiate for a 250 refill prescription of Valium to ease his anxiety while he's being raped for the next 20 years. He might want to consider negotiating for some KY to go with the Valium.

Yep... sucks to be that guy.
 
Yeah...truly. It'd really suck if his inmates would rape him twice on Sundays...you know to be christian about it.

Actually that would be good... think of all the praying he will be doing Sunday morning. "Please help me Lord... Please help me Lord... Please help me Lord..."
 
Bod, the guy wants a civil suit in which he'll ask for a lot of money that he knows that he'll never get. I'm thinking after the money is off the table he'll attempt to negotiate for a 250 refill prescription of Valium to ease his anxiety while he's being raped for the next 20 years. He might want to consider negotiating for some KY to go with the Valium.

Only if the Vaseline has coarse sand in it.
 
The last page or so of this thread is sociopathic filth.
 
Sure they are. They voluntarily committed a crime. If they chose not to commit a crime, they wouldn't be in jail. But you already knew that, and knew what I meant. No, I didn't agree with you. Try again?

By the way, the reason I'm not posting from jail is I decided not to do something that will end up causing me to be sent to prison. See how that works?

By the way, go down to your nearest prison and demand that they be released. You seem to have a problem with people in prison. Maybe you can volunteer your house for the people who voluntarily commit crimes, then there would be nothing to worry about.

Absolutely. Rather than being "held" responsible, I'd prefer (and think they might too) that they were responsible enough to avoid the mess. There are plenty of truly great human beings that are poor, so enough with the excuses-if we keep silent this is what we get.
 
Well the ultimate solution is the isolation of all prisoners, however, that would be costly and harmful to most of them in the long run. What could be a solution is if you are found to have raped someone in prison you are then placed in isolation the rest of your stay. It wouldn't "solve" the first rape problem but it may serve as an incentive not rape someone.

There isn't enough room as is, and selecting for the rapists would eventually get you a huge contained and pissed rapist population. What could go wrong there?
 
I'm ok with punishment, please stop lying about my arguments. I was merely saying that being in jail isn't voluntary. You seem to agree, though you won't say it, because you wouldn't want the doors of prison flung open because the criminals would leave to commit crimes. Why? Because they were not in jail voluntarily.

She arguing above your argument-you are saying that jail isn't voluntary. I dont think thats news to anybody-but she's discussing the "why?" to your "what".
 
It IS a good idea for most when using the "One strike" rule. Then they may think twice before doing it again. Yes it's enforceable, if the strike is proven.

There was much opposition from the left to 3 strikes here in CA, but it worked well-it got rid of the population who would not leave crime-at that point its time to leave society.

Still, avoiding them even being in prison (our illegal pop makes up 1 in 4 in our prisons-they should be deported) would be preferred.
 
There isn't enough room as is, and selecting for the rapists would eventually get you a huge contained and pissed rapist population. What could go wrong there?

You mean versus the already pissed rapist population we have now? So is your solution to let the rapists keep on raping, what could go wrong there?
 
She arguing above your argument-you are saying that jail isn't voluntary. I dont think thats news to anybody-but she's discussing the "why?" to your "what".

I know what she's trying to argue. End of the day we are applying force to put people in prison and keep them there. The force can (and often is) legitimate, but we're still the one's putting them there. That makes us responsible for their well being. We cannot turn blind eye to abuse, crime, torture, etc. to our inmates, we are morally obligated to them since we are not animals, even if those in prison are labeled as such. We are not.
 
Suppose short eyes says to his cell mate: "I'm going to sue the State and the prison for having been raped by you three times. Just say that you didn't do it. Don't say anything else and I'll split the money with you."
 
The fact that you think a prison should work like this makes me sick.

Meh, I think it was funny. Comedy is born of tragedy. Still there is an element of truth to it. Common knowledge is that if you molest children and go to prison, you will not be treated kindly as other prisoners are often parents as well. Perhaps that should serve as a deterrent. But it appears not to...
 
Suppose short eyes says to his cell mate: "I'm going to sue the State and the prison for having been raped by you three times. Just say that you didn't do it. Don't say anything else and I'll split the money with you."

Or maybe they are in love and need money for their honeymoon.
 
Or maybe they are in love and need money for their honeymoon.

It could be that. Or anything. Once you become a ward of the State, it won't take long to figure out that gaming the system from the inside is easier. You have all that time to work on it.
 
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