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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    What kind of child rapist was he?
    The 18 year old banging his 16 year old girl friend that he has already been ****ing for years or the more egregious kind?
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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Yeah, but we as a culture do put child murderers and rapists on the bottom of the criminal heap. If you reported on the rapist in this story without mentioning the victim then the narrative would be about a criminal continuing his crime spree in prison. I think even knowing the crimes of the perpetrator wouldn't change the impression most would get once they learned the crimes of the victim, though. It starts to sound more like an episode of DEXTER.
    Yes we do put child murderers and rapists on the bottom of the criminal heap.

    Here is the point though, from the sense of fair play and justice, is there ever a time we as a society can support violence being done to an individual who is under our care and in vulnerable situation? I don't believe so, I say unequivocally, no. Neither do I think we can look at the past of that individual and make that a justification for violence done to him.

    To me, it has to be clear that we as a society do not condone such action. Therefore I can not condone such action.

    I personally do not believe our criminal sentencing should be an act of revenge. Punishment yes, reform yes, revenge...no.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    It is unlikely that this suit will go anywhere UNLESS it can be proven that the state in some way facilitated the assault.

    Think about the can of worms it opens if someone were to successfully sue because something bad happened to them in prison.

    The flip side to this is of course...the chutzpah that it takes to sue because someone committed a violent sexual act against you when you are in prison for committing a violent sexual act...

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueWarrior View Post
    What kind of child rapist was he?
    The 18 year old banging his 16 year old girl friend that he has already been ****ing for years or the more egregious kind?
    I dont know that you will find that a crime in any state in the country but certainly not most states. The concept of 'Statutory rape' isnt necessarily what people think it is. Most states have age of consent laws that begin at 15 and up pertaining to people within a certain age range(though some have them starting even younger. Pennsylvania is I believe 13). Virtually impossible to be jailed for 10 years on a statutory charge (though I have seen some weird individual cases).

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    The fact that you think a prison should work like this makes me sick.
    He was also a prison guard. Yeah, so maybe people like him shouldn't be prison guards.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Who said anything about fun? Do you think cages are fun? Do you think having your actions controlled by others is fun? Exactly what do you think is fun about prison? I suggest that there is no excuse to not protect prisoners from rape and you honestly think I'm promoting prisons be fun? Is being against prison rape somehow lead to carnival rides for prisoners?
    Only death row inmates are kept in cages, 23 hours a day. I already know you aren't proposing that we treat all inmates like death row inmates.
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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Only death row inmates are kept in cages, 23 hours a day. I already know you aren't proposing that we treat all inmates like death row inmates.
    What does that have to do with my argument? When did I say they were cages all day long?

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    **** that child molesting piece of scum...... Wait...... They already did. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!

    Article is here.
    Seems that fake isn't without a sense of irony. Not that I'm glad that this happened, but I'm far from broke up about it.

    I wonder, if in front of the right activist judge, he's not going to get some sort of compensation, but, if he's in prison, how's he going to collect? Or is it going to wait for him to be released from prison?
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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    It is unlikely that this suit will go anywhere UNLESS it can be proven that the state in some way facilitated the assault.

    Think about the can of worms it opens if someone were to successfully sue because something bad happened to them in prison.

    The flip side to this is of course...the chutzpah that it takes to sue because someone committed a violent sexual act against you when you are in prison for committing a violent sexual act...
    The prison is responsible for what happens in their walls and should be held accountable for it. Just because they fail so hard that it would hurt if prisoners held them accountable doesn't mean anything towards the facts.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    But you still have to grapple with the fundamental point, is Prison a place where denial of freedom is enough of a punishment, or is rape suppose to be part of that punishment.

    I don't agree that prison should be roses, but the American system in particular is poorly run and funded and countries with less harsh prison systems such as the Scandinavian countries have a far lower rate of return guests because of it.

    American prisons turn small time criminals that could be rehabilitated into hardened criminals because of conditions but now I'm getting off point.

    The point is if we make rape permissible as part of the prison system, then we are essentially sentencing someone to rape as a punishment for their crimes which is cruel and unusual punishment which goes against the constitution.
    You are 100% correct.

    But, I'll be damned if I can muster up an ounce of sympathy for a child rapist.
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