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    Re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Yes. But food stamps don't usually cause gang turf wars.
    Resources and control of resources do. Every buck saved on food is a buck for weed and alcohol.

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    Re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Resources and control of resources do. Every buck saved on food is a buck for weed and alcohol.
    Without the food stamps they would just be far more likely to commit crimes... and still find time for that weed and alcohol.
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    Re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Without the food stamps they would just be far more likely to commit crimes... and still find time for that weed and alcohol.
    I know plenty of poor people (including myself until recently) who never committed crimes. Do you have such a low opinion of the poor? Is the status quo acceptable to you?

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    Re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I know plenty of poor people (including myself until recently) who never committed crimes.
    I never said they all do.

    Do you have such a low opinion of the poor?
    It is reality. When people are very desperate they sometimes do desperate things.

    Is the status quo acceptable to you?
    Absolutely not. As I stated before, I am unhappy with the current welfare system. It should be replaced with Thomas Paine's citizen dividend.
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    Re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I never said they all do.



    It is reality. When people are very desperate they sometimes do desperate things.



    Absolutely not. As I stated before, I am unhappy with the current welfare system. It should be replaced with Thomas Paine's citizen dividend.
    Its already illegal to commit crime. Are we to be held hostage to a mob who threatens violence because handouts are withheld?

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    Re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its already illegal to commit crime.
    That's why most people don't do it unless their survival depends on it.

    Are we to be held hostage to a mob who threatens violence because handouts are withheld?
    "Mob who threatens violence"... now who has a negative opinion of the poor?
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    Re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    That's why most people don't do it unless their survival depends on it.



    "Mob who threatens violence"... now who has a negative opinion of the poor?
    My comments were regarding a group that would commit crimes if not given hand outs.

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    Re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueWarrior View Post
    \

    why is oral sex bad?

    why no answer wrt non-procreative sex?
    Because it is inherently non-procreative.

    Be more specific.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    You must really hate condoms.
    They are immoral.

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    Re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Because it is inherently non-procreative.

    Be more specific.



    They are immoral.
    iv spent the last 29 years not making kids why is that wrong? siting hear typing at the computer im not getting any one pregnant why is that wrong?

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    Re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by ~SAL View Post
    A few of the problems I have with whole hurrah is:

    - rape is wrong under any circumstance even in prison and regardless of what they did
    - it isn't like innocent people have never been convicted
    - we are supposed to uphold the law and what we know to be right, regardless of what others do or do not do otherwise there is no difference between us
    Agreed.

    Sure, the guy is a total loser...but you cannot start allowing prisoners to get raped because they are convicted of horrible crimes.

    And, as you said, not everyone convicted is guilty.

    But even if this guy did it, he should not be raped in prison...no matter how justified it may seem.


    Finally, if jails become lawless, then criminals will stop at nothing to avoid them. Rapists will kill their victims to avoid leaving witnesses since even a short sentence could be a death sentence. And so on.

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