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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    This is a start:
    PRISON RAPE ELIMINATION ACT LOCKUP STANDARDS
    United States Department of Justice Final Rule
    National Standards to Prevent,
    Detect, and Respond to Prison Rape
    http://www.prearesourcecenter.org/si...pe-lockups.pdf
    I can't open the link. Sum it up please.

    Is there something in there that says how you keep cell mates from raping each other?

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Wait - seriously?

    How so?
    First it needs to be acknowledged that much prison rape is done by guards or other employees and much of the rape by prisoners is encouraged or allowed by guards and other employees. Ending all tolerance for that employee behavior will probably be one of the most effective strategies. Prisoners are under near constant observation and surveillance, eliminating prisoners few opportunities to go unobserved will help. For more, see the document I recently posted with the federal recommendations.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So then don't throw them in prison, is that right? Just let 'em rape little girls at will, and pretend we don't see it? That's the alternative, although I like SMTA's suggestion of you taking them into your home too.
    Why do you think barbarian solutions such as prison is a solution to any sort of problem at all? What does it solve? Where has it lead us?

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    First it needs to be acknowledged that much prison rape is done by guards or other employees and much of the rape by prisoners is encouraged or allowed by guards and other employees. Ending all tolerance for that employee behavior will probably be one of the most effective strategies. Prisoners are under near constant observation and surveillance, eliminating prisoners few opportunities to go unobserved will help. For more, see the document I recently posted with the federal recommendations.
    This thread wasn't about rape by a prison guard.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why do you think barbarian solutions such as prison is a solution to any sort of problem at all? What does it solve? Where has it lead us?
    Listen, if you want kiddie rapists to run free, by all means, invite them to live with you. As someone with kids, I prefer to know that they aren't prowling the streets. Let me know when you open your doors and welcome them in to your home.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    This thread wasn't about rape by a prison guard.
    You can't face the problem until you face the fact that prison guards rape inmates.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You can't face the problem until you face the fact that prison guards rape inmates.
    This thread wasn't about a prisoner being raped by a guard.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Just because they have given into ape behavior doesn't mean that I must as well.
    Nobody is asking you too.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Listen, if you want kiddie rapists to run free, by all means, invite them to live with you. As someone with kids, I prefer to know that they aren't prowling the streets. Let me know when you open your doors and welcome them in to your home.
    Why not just answer the question? Do you believe prison solves any sort of problem? Do you think it makes us a moral and just society to consider prison justice?

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    a child molester is a monster and should be jailed and then committed to a psychiatric hospital until he is either cured or never let out again.

    But, any rape is a failure of the government's duty. He is a wuss to sue the government/jail except if it is a continues and institutional problem in that jail. Fact is that he was raped three times by his jail mate. If he did report it right after each rape and the jail did not stop it or do anything to remedy it then maybe he has a case. If he did not report it until after the third time then it is all down to him. The jail cannot be responsible for non-reporting of rape.

    Or if the rapist was already brought up on charges numerous times for raping cell mates then yes, the jail would be lacking in their duty towards the prisoners (regardless of who the prisoner is or what he did as a crime).

    This guy was a monster, but jailing him is meant to protect the public, punish him by depriving him of his freedom and keeping him locked up for however long he was sentenced too. Cruel and unusual punishment is not allowed so the jail also has a duty towards the inmates of keeping them locked up but also keeping them as safe and secure as it humanly possible. You cannot stop every act of crime in jail but the jail has to do it's utmost to prevent it.

    Jail is supposed to stop crimes, not allowing crimes to occur in jail with no effort of the jail authority/government to stop it.
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