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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    That's simply not correct legally. The standard of (civil) culpability which a natural or legal person has for failing to protect a person in their custody is negligence, which is more restrictive than strict liability, but less than intentional.



    Opposing rape is not bigoted.
    you are right about that and however saying homosexlty itself is wrong is rather bigoted

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Cage? This guy was in a cage? Can you post a picture of that?
    What do yo think a prison cell is? A field of flowers?

    So what you want is private cells for all prisoners, I take it?
    Is that somehow a bad idea? If the problem is prison cell rape the solution is pretty obvious. Do you want to know what they do after it is found out a rape happened? Nothing.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, the statistics say this is an aggregate problem, not that it's an isolated case. It's not that this dude is the only dude getting raped in prison; but rather that there is a culture of it and is widespread.

    Treating this in vacuum is stupid and will not allow true solution to be discovered.
    What is 'stupid' is attempting to turn a case (especially THIS case) into a referendum on prison overcrowding or any other 'cause'.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What do yo think a prison cell is? A field of flowers?



    Is that somehow a bad idea? If the problem is prison cell rape the solution is pretty obvious. Do you want to know what they do after it is found out a rape happened? Nothing.
    So make all prisons single cell. Got it. That's your suggestion.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So make all prisons single cell. Got it. That's your suggestion.
    No, the idea is fairly simple. If the problem is prison cell rape due people sharing cells you eliminate that part of the equation. If I put two dogs in a cage long enough one of them is getting raped. It's just going to happen. The question isn't if it will happen, but exactly when it will happen.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That is some great logic you have right there. Did you forget how they got there in the first place? Hint: Someone forced them to go.
    More hints: Because they were found guilty of committing a felony crime.

    If their prison stay is too difficult for you, feel free to open up your home for them.
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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, the idea is fairly simple. If the problem is prison cell rape due people sharing cells you eliminate that part of the equation. If I put two dogs in a cage long enough one of them is getting raped. It's just going to happen. The question isn't if it will happen, but exactly when it will happen.
    So you are willing to finance the building of hundreds of prisons?

    Never happen.
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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, the idea is fairly simple. If the problem is prison cell rape due people sharing cells you eliminate that part of the equation. If I put two dogs in a cage long enough one of them is getting raped. It's just going to happen. The question isn't if it will happen, but exactly when it will happen.
    I understood it the first time you said it. You said "No" then went on to repeat exactly what I said you said.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    More hints: Because they were found guilty of committing a felony crime.
    And? Does that somehow matter? The crime is a matter of law that came about because of the opinion of men, not some important fact of any real value. Just because the government can make something a felony and decide that it is justified to throw people in prison for it means nothing to my argument.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    What is 'stupid' is attempting to turn a case (especially THIS case) into a referendum on prison overcrowding or any other 'cause'.
    If there is a systematic problem, than that problem needs to be addressed. Just reality.
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