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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, that is not how it works. Torture, rape, murder, etc. are not part, nor should be part, of the prison system.
    They should not be part of it, but I question your claim that they are not.

    The prison industrial complex thrives on violence and corruption.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Do you really think it matters if they are innocent or not to my point? The state forces people to go to prison. Do you think they tell people they can have a lollipop if they go to prison?
    Yes it matters. They are being "forced" into prison because they committed a crime, and no other reason.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yes it matters. They are being "forced" into prison because they committed a crime, and no other reason.
    No, really doesn't matter. They could have killed a thousand people and the state is still forcing them into prison and they are still responsible for their well being after that point.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, someone has to sentence them and throw them there. They don't just go there voluntarily.
    And they are sentenced for committing a crime. That's their punishment. Don't want to go to prison? Don't commit a crime. It's easy to avoid it.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    And they are sentenced for committing a crime. That's their punishment. Don't want to go to prison? Don't commit a crime. It's easy to avoid it.
    Unless you're one of those people that is actually innocent.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, really doesn't matter. They could have killed a thousand people and the state is still forcing them into prison and they are still responsible for their well being after that point.
    Now you're changing the discussion. You are saying they are forced into prison. No. They aren't forced into molesting children. They do it, and that's their punishment.

    So what's your suggestion on how to avoid having cell mates rape each other?

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Unless you're one of those people that is actually innocent.
    In the case of this guy, he wasn't innocent. He confessed.

    So he went where he deserved to go, and nobody forced him to go there. It's a punishment.

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    It seems like a legitimate lawsuit to me.

    Unless his sentence was to be raped by his cellmate 3 times, the state had a responsibility to protect him to the best of its ability while he was locked up. It seems like they failed to do so.

    The news story also made it seem like this happened before he went to trial or entered the guilty plea. Which if true makes it especially inexcusable.
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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Now you're changing the discussion. You are saying they are forced into prison. No. They aren't forced into molesting children. They do it, and that's their punishment.
    I'm changing nothing. They might have forced their will on someone else to get the state to force their will on them, but the state STILL forced their will on them. It's not as if changing the name from force to punishment changes anything about the nature of the act. Throwing someone in a cage is still throwing someone in a cage now and forever.

    So what's your suggestion on how to avoid having cell mates rape each other?
    That is for the prison system to figure out. Until they figure it out I'm 100% behind all lawsuits that hold them accountable. Maybe putting dangerous people in a cage with someone else is a stupid idea?

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    re: Convicted Child Molester Suing After Being Raped in Garfield County Jail[W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I'm changing nothing. They might have forced their will on someone else to get the state to force their will on them, but the state STILL forced their will on them. It's not as if changing the name from force to punishment changes anything about the nature of the act. Throwing someone in a cage is still throwing someone in a cage now and forever.



    That is for the prison system to figure out. Until they figure it out I'm 100% behind all lawsuits that hold them accountable. Maybe putting dangerous people in a cage with someone else is a stupid idea?
    Cage? This guy was in a cage? Can you post a picture of that?

    So what you want is private cells for all prisoners, I take it?

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