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    Re: Missouri governor sends in National Guard after shooting protests

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Missouri governor sends in National Guard after shooting protests

    So the democrat governor sends in more pigs to back up the pigs who are already there and can't handle it.

    Nice going assholes. Why doesn't the Ferguson police department tell people what really, really happened? Their ilk executed a citizen on a lonely street. Gutless bastards.

    I wonder if they'll give the order "shoot to kill" like mayor Richard J. Daley did many years ago in Chicago. stupid pigs.
    Your linked news source fails to mention that some of those "protestors" are shooting, starting fires, looting and destroying property. Why don't you tell us what is really, really happening?
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    Re: Missouri governor sends in National Guard after shooting protests

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Missouri governor sends in National Guard after shooting protests

    So the democrat governor sends in more pigs to back up the pigs who are already there and can't handle it.

    Nice going assholes. Why doesn't the Ferguson police department tell people what really, really happened? Their ilk executed a citizen on a lonely street. Gutless bastards.

    I wonder if they'll give the order "shoot to kill" like mayor Richard J. Daley did many years ago in Chicago. stupid pigs.
    This is what usually happens. People start rioting and looting. The local police department can't handle it. The National Guard is sent in (they have different engagement rules). A scared young soldier with a M16 is shot at or assaulted and defends him/her self and kills at least one other person. Two or more more lives ruined so someone can get a free flat screen or whatever else they want to loot. Those kids in the National Guard don't want to be in the middle of this mess but they have no choice.

    One thing is definite, the looting and rioting will stop or someone else is going to die.
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    Re: Missouri governor sends in National Guard after shooting protests

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    The kid was a giant who had already whipped his ass. I would have shot him too.
    from all reports i have seen there is conflicting evidence.

    the police say that brown shoved the officer back in the car then tried to go for his gun but we only have their word for it. hearsay at best.

    then we have eye witness accounts that say they were walking down the street which is not a crime in a neighborhood. the cop got mad because they wouldn't get out of the street.

    they said that the cop put him in a neck hold etc ...
    so the actual evidences are sketchy.

    now if they link this kid to the robbery then the cop had enough for a reasonable stop. otherwise walking down the street is not enough for a cop to stop them.

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    Re: Missouri governor sends in National Guard after shooting protests

    IMO, there are two issues:

    1. Completing the investigation into the shooting of Michael Brown. This has to be a priority. I reserve judgment on that matter as a lot of facts have yet to be determined. If the officer used excessive force--and it remains to be seen--he most definitely should be held fully accountable. For now, the witnesses will need to be carefully and thoroughly questioned and any other evidence will need to be meticulously examined before conclusions are reached. Unlike with the Garner case in New York City, no video of the incident has surfaced to date, which makes the questioning of witnesses and examination of additional information even more critical. I'll await the findings. The media speculation is not really helpful. Neither is the release of the alleged robbery video, as the video does not show what happened at the time and place of the shooting. In general, early information is often incomplete and/or inaccurate.

    2. Addressing post-incident security issues. Although many and probably most protesters are peaceful and have not created security issues, there has been some number who have decidedly exploited the situation to opportunistically loot, carry out violence, etc. That smaller number of persons undermines the credibility of the peaceful protesters as their actions drown out the message of the larger group. That smaller number also needs to be contained and, for those apprehended, prosecuted for their crimes. Rule of law is essential to safeguarding the rights and safety of all residents, including those impacted by the violence/vandalism and also the peaceful protesters. The National Guard's being called out is necessary toward that end. First, there has been a significant loss of confidence in the local police department at present. Second, the State Troopers were not very effective in the end.

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    Re: Missouri governor sends in National Guard after shooting protests

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    from all reports i have seen there is conflicting evidence.

    the police say that brown shoved the officer back in the car then tried to go for his gun but we only have their word for it. hearsay at best.

    then we have eye witness accounts that say they were walking down the street which is not a crime in a neighborhood. the cop got mad because they wouldn't get out of the street.

    they said that the cop put him in a neck hold etc ...
    so the actual evidences are sketchy.

    now if they link this kid to the robbery then the cop had enough for a reasonable stop. otherwise walking down the street is not enough for a cop to stop them.
    I disagree...walking in the middle of.the street is enough reason It's not legal.
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    Re: Missouri governor sends in National Guard after shooting protests

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Missouri governor sends in National Guard after shooting protests

    So the democrat governor sends in more pigs to back up the pigs who are already there and can't handle it.

    Nice going assholes. Why doesn't the Ferguson police department tell people what really, really happened? Their ilk executed a citizen on a lonely street. Gutless bastards.

    I wonder if they'll give the order "shoot to kill" like mayor Richard J. Daley did many years ago in Chicago. stupid pigs.
    Wait! You're the same cat that fully, passionately supported the BLM invading Clive Bundy's ranch like an SS panzer corps!
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    Re: Missouri governor sends in National Guard after shooting protests

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    from all reports i have seen there is conflicting evidence.

    the police say that brown shoved the officer back in the car then tried to go for his gun but we only have their word for it. hearsay at best.

    then we have eye witness accounts that say they were walking down the street which is not a crime in a neighborhood. the cop got mad because they wouldn't get out of the street.

    they said that the cop put him in a neck hold etc ...
    so the actual evidences are sketchy.

    now if they link this kid to the robbery then the cop had enough for a reasonable stop. otherwise walking down the street is not enough for a cop to stop them.
    Walking in the thoroughfare is a misemeanor and the cops aren't going to just ignore it. They WILL give you their attention.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Missouri governor sends in National Guard after shooting protests

    People are seriously going after the National Guard ?

    It took the California National Guard to finally shut down the LA Riots.

    I hope the looters understand the difference between a Soldier and a Police officer.

    If not, it might cost them their lives.

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    Re: Missouri governor sends in National Guard after shooting protests

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Missouri governor sends in National Guard after shooting protests

    So the democrat governor sends in more pigs to back up the pigs who are already there and can't handle it.

    Nice going assholes. Why doesn't the Ferguson police department tell people what really, really happened? Their ilk executed a citizen on a lonely street. Gutless bastards.

    I wonder if they'll give the order "shoot to kill" like mayor Richard J. Daley did many years ago in Chicago. stupid pigs.
    I question authority. It's in my nature. I don't think its reasonable to say all police are pigs and are bad. Don't you think that is a bit of a stretch?

    Also, sending in the national guard I think is good to relieve the Ferguson police because the ferg police are suspect as hell and need to be removed from the situation and investigated.
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    Missouri governor sends in National Guard after shooting protests

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I question authority. It's in my nature. I don't think its reasonable to say all police are pigs and are bad. Don't you think that is a bit of a stretch?

    Also, sending in the national guard I think is good to relieve the Ferguson police because the ferg police are suspect as hell and need to be removed from the situation and investigated.
    The Ferguson PD was relieved Monday by the State Police.

    Now the state police are being relieved by the Guard.

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