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Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police[W:302,693:992]

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Why would he run from the gun. Then turn around and run back at the gun? I think its most likely the cop tried to punk him. Pulled him by his neck with a hand hook around his neck. Brown punched the cop and ran. The cop shot at Brown from the car (and it most likely missed). Brown became scared of the gunshots, stop and surrendered. Laying down as his friend, the witness described and then the cop hit him with bullets. Which explains how a bullet could go down through his head and into his collar bone. No one runs with their head straight down facing the ground and hunched over like a hunch back. To make the collar bone and eye socket line up you would have to be laying down. Go ahead and try it. Lean over and bend your head until your eye socket and collar bone run parrallel to the ground. Good luck running like that.

Well, let's cancel the Grand Jury, seems you have it all figured out.

Why don't you let the justice system look at the facts that none of us have, and make some decisions?
 
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Well, let's cancel the Grand Jury, seems you have it all figured out.

Why don't you let the justice system look at the facts that none of us have, and make some decisions?
I said "most likely". Its just a theory.
 
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Brown? You don't know that was Brown on that video! Could just as easily have been some other 6'4" 300 pound teenager who just so happened to be wearing the same clothes, have a tiny dreadlocked cohort of his own, and the same box of cigars. I mean, the robbery happened like 10-15 minutes and 1/8 mile from where Brown was confronted, who knows how many guys like that there were in the area. Dozens? Hundreds?

I can't pinpoint it now, but there is a post on this thread from this afternoon that seriously made that very point - I believe she said "doesn't everybody in Ferguson look like Brown?"
 
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Yea I was a mess back then but I never touched a Police officer.

Clearly it was the marijuana that made him go berserk! Haven't you ever watched Reefer Madness?

And I thought weed was supposed to mellow you out.

He didn't look very mellow when he strong arm robbed the store.
 
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Not everyone is a rioter. There are peaceful protesters there.

I've seen coverage that shows many peaceful protesters trying to get the troublemakers to stop before the police have to move in. Personally, I feel sorry for the good people of Ferguson - I'm sure there are tons of them - they are being overtaken by the professional **** disturbers who follow the media around causing havoc for the sole purpose of being disruptive, lawless, and violent. What we're seeing most nights now is not Ferguson - at least I don't believe it is.
 
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I said "most likely". Its just a theory.

Most likely? That was the most far-fetched theory I've read yet, and I've read quite a few.
 
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I can reach my hand 6 feet high right now and im sitting lower than a car's seat. The neck is lower than a person's maximum height. Now rise up on your heels a little bit and you have much more allowance than needed.
And that only helps illustrate the point. You'd be stretching to reach the guy if he were looking down at you through the sunroof. Move him just a few inches to the left of your shoulder and you can no longer reach his neck. At 18" you can only touch his belly, and at 2' you can maybe brush him with your fingertips. And that's just if you're trying to pull this 300 lb. guy in with your left hand alone.
 
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The "A Punk Is a Hunk" Preachers

On the contrary, killing a vicious person like Brown saves the lives of people someone like him probably would have killed if he had lived. We are not allowed to think about that, so you will hear it here for the first time.

Another example: the Thughugger moralism, "Better to let 10 guilty to go free than condemn one innocent man" is illogical; the 10 guilty will be enabled to harm 100 innocent victims. So the score on that is 100 to 1 against the sick masochists who want us to coddle criminals.

I would say that your logic is flawed, but that garbage you are spewing can't even be considered logic.
 
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Well, let's cancel the Grand Jury, seems you have it all figured out.

Why don't you let the justice system look at the facts that none of us have, and make some decisions?

If a person is interested in the truth, they would let the investigation occur first. But that isn't what this is all about in my opinion.

Guess the original witnesses that started the "hands up" story are back tracking from what they originally said. And it is being reported and verified by the District Attorney's office the officer received an orbital blowout fracture from his encounter with Brown.

Original Witnesses' 'Hands Up' Brown Stories Falling Apart
 
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If a person is interested in the truth, they would let the investigation occur first. But that isn't what this is all about in my opinion.

Guess the original witnesses that started the "hands up" story are back tracking from what they originally said. And it is being reported and verified by the District Attorney's office the officer received an orbital blowout fracture from his encounter with Brown.

Original Witnesses' 'Hands Up' Brown Stories Falling Apart

Tawana Brawley, Duke Lacrosse, Trayvon Martin, Ferguson....

Will these incidents continue to be taken seriously?
 
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And that only helps illustrate the point. You'd be stretching to reach the guy if he were looking down at you through the sunroof. Move him just a few inches to the left of your shoulder and you can no longer reach his neck. At 18" you can only touch his belly, and at 2' you can maybe brush him with your fingertips. And that's just if you're trying to pull this 300 lb. guy in with your left hand alone.

An arm with stretched structure has more stability than a contracted arm. All you have to do is clasp the back of the neck and litereally sit down and they are comming with you.
 
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Tawana Brawley, Duke Lacrosse, Trayvon Martin, Ferguson....

Will these incidents continue to be taken seriously?

With the way the media does its job? Yes.
 
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The "witness" should be charged with perjury.

The only people that see this as a race thing are far left wingers. Black cops even think its a good shoot based on what has been released. Just refer to tennessee v garner. Taken into account his size, the fact he was a robbery suspect, then the obvious fight the officer already had with brown. A reasonable officer would use deadly force.

There is no criminal case against the officer. The family will sue, lots of criminals familys do. The officers liability insurance will settle.
 
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No, based on that their report on this matter shouldn't be taken at face value. They are a corrupt organization that has shown itself to lie if need be to protect its employees.

Their statements will be compared against each other, those of other eye witnesses, and the physical evidence. Not taken at face value.
 
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If a person is interested in the truth, they would let the investigation occur first. But that isn't what this is all about in my opinion.

Guess the original witnesses that started the "hands up" story are back tracking from what they originally said. And it is being reported and verified by the District Attorney's office the officer received an orbital blowout fracture from his encounter with Brown.

Original Witnesses' 'Hands Up' Brown Stories Falling Apart

Bingo. Not at all interested in the truth.
 
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And the claim is that he got Brown by the neck?

How many people could reach higher than your belt buckle when seated in a car? I mean some ATM machines can be hard to reach and they're like 3 feet off the ground.

Or maybe I missed the part where the cop was driving a school bus?
Yep...thats the point.
 
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It's not black and white like that. People can be protesting in a way this is disorderly without invalidating that they are protesting.

When they resort to violence, looting, and pillaging, they are not protesters. They are thuggish criminals.
 
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https://screen.yahoo.com/timeline-michael-brown-shooting-ferguson-061025136.html#

An interesting visualization. Computer Animation recreation of both claimed stories.

Hmmm. The version there says the autopsy reveals the gun was fired at close range, 2-3 feet. WHile the 'preliminary findings' yesterday said they were not at close range.

Maybe the first is the initial autopsy? Because the one yesterday is from the 2nd autopsy.

What's the actual truth? Close or long range?
 
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Why would he run from the gun. Then turn around and run back at the gun? I think its most likely the cop tried to punk him. Pulled him by his neck with a hand hook around his neck. Brown punched the cop and ran. The cop shot at Brown from the car (and it most likely missed). Brown became scared of the gunshots, stop and surrendered. Laying down as his friend, the witness described and then the cop hit him with bullets. Which explains how a bullet could go down through his head and into his collar bone. No one runs with their head straight down facing the ground and hunched over like a hunch back. To make the collar bone and eye socket line up you would have to be laying down. Go ahead and try it. Lean over and bend your head until your eye socket and collar bone run parrallel to the ground. Good luck running like that.

I would say that's probably the least likely, but most absurd, assessment so far.
 
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I would say that's probably the least likely, but most absurd, assessment so far.

Internet keyboard medical examiner.
 
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What ? From the gentle giant?

I'm not sure if this has already been reported in the previous 93 page, but at least one site is saying that at least a dozen witnesses have corroborated Officer Wilson's story and that Wilson suffered a fracture to his eye socket in the incident.

BREAKING REPORT: Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brown Attack | The Gateway Pundit
 
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Oh my, hearsay from a personal friend of the police officer giving a story that supports his side of things and TheBlaze finding some unknown reporter making more claims from anonymous sources? I'm convinced. I am.

:shrug: If you are desperate to turn a criminal into a victim, no evidence would convince you. We have little enough as it is - but what we do have seems to corroborate the idea that this was not any kind of execution style killing of a man trying to surrender, as the protesters claim.
 
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The story is very plausible.

I wonder how many of these 12 will recant their statements by the time the grand jury sits.....

:shrug: no idea. It could be that we see a similar situation to the zimmerman jurors, where once they realize that the crazies out there will mob or threaten them, suddenly they change their minds.


Anywho, the description of the shooting matches the coroners reports that we've seen, as well as basic ballistics and gun-handling. :shrug: again, little evidence is publicly available, but what is seems to generally confirm that the guy was running at the cop when he was shot.
 
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