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Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police[W:302,693:992]

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tres borrachos said:
LMAO? No, what I said was nonsense to this incorrect statement from you:

And yet, the organization which represents him does. That makes their reports as inadmissible as the friend's statement.
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And I showed you why their report is inadmissible or should be. They're a corrupt and violent organization that proven that its members work together when it comes to breaking the law. Again, various cops beat down a man, various cops admit that he didn't do anything wrong and they lied as a group. The organization sends a report that goes through various people before being sent and it's returned because it's found to be not only wrong but completely illogical. This is a corrupt group defending one of their own. Their statements are not to be trusted or admitted into a court of law.
 
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TobyOne said:
Yes. Every reasonable person does.

Oh wait, Gonzales? I think he was just incompetent. But Holder? Competently agenda driven.
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So which was it? Do AG's push an agenda, or just AG's at work during democratic presidencies.
 
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Hatuey said:
You mean the history of a corrupt police department has nothing to do with what allegedly comes from their anonymous sources? You're kidding right?
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What corruption?

Specifics.
 
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Hatuey said:
The bungling of the crime statistics was the latest black eye on the Ferguson Police Department, which has been sued twice in federal court for alleged civil rights violations since 2008, court records show. One case was dismissed and a ruling on the other is pending. A civil suit was also filed against the department stemming from a 2009 incident in which a resident was charged with destruction of property because he bled on the uniforms of officers who allegedly beat him, the Daily Beast reported. Arguments in that case are scheduled for December.
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... so 2 lawsuits in 6 years, one of which was dismissed? IT'S AN EPIDEMIC!!
 
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Hatuey said:
And I showed you why their report is inadmissible or should be. They're a corrupt and violent organization that proven that its members work together when it comes to breaking the law. Again, various cops beat down a man, various cops admit that he didn't do anything wrong and they lied as a group. The organization sends a report that goes through various people before being sent and it's returned because it's found to be not only wrong but completely illogical.
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So tell me Hatuey. They're corrupt and their reports are inadmissible. So based on that, that would mean that they couldn't arrest anyone, because the police reports are "inadmissible". So, prove that they haven't arrested a single person who ultimately went on to be tried and convicted. Is it anarchy in Ferguson?

By the way, they've arrested looters and non-peaceful protestors, so you're wrong, unless you can prove that the DA isn't going to accept the reports?
 
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Excon said:
Unlikely.
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There is no credible source that says he was surrendering.
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2.) An eye witness account makes that scenario highly unlikely. As Brown was approaching the Officer as the Officer was shooting. That is not indicative of surrendering.


Only if just one of many wrong things are done.





Hopefully it doesn't make it that far, as it certainly shouldn't.
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No one appointed you do judge this case, so you don't get to define credible vs. non-credible.

Or wrong vs. right.




It's all out of your hands.

Wait and see what happens with the rest of us.
 
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Sabanist said:
Because holder wants to hang a cop and cant rely on the state exam nor a private exam
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That's a strange accusation. What's to fear from Holders autopsy, or are you accusing him of planning criminal behavior?
 
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shrubnose said:
No one appointed you do judge this case, so you don't get to define credible vs. non-credible.
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This is a debate forum where most members can tell what is and isn't credible. And do so. So spare everybody your ridiculous jive.
It is especially easy to tell when they make it obvious.
 
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tres borrachos said:
So tell me Hatuey. They're corrupt and their reports are inadmissible. So based on that, that would mean that they couldn't arrest anyone, because the police reports are "inadmissible". So, prove that they haven't arrested a single person who ultimately went on to be tried and convicted. Is it anarchy in Ferguson?
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No, based on that their report on this matter shouldn't be taken at face value. They are a corrupt organization that has shown itself to lie if need be to protect its employees.
 
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shrubnose said:
No one appointed you do judge this case, so you don't get to define credible vs. non-credible.

Or wrong vs. right.




It's all out of your hands.

Wait and see what happens with the rest of us.
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He is talking about those eyewitness accounts that have been shown to be faulty because of their incompatibility with the preliminary autopsy reports. Dorian Johnson's account is especially faulty - he's had to recant some of the things he has said because of the hard evidence. Not very credible.
 
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SMTA said:
What corruption?

Specifics.
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I've posted it a few times, look through the thread. Hell, the latest one was actually caught on video. They threatened a reported with shelling them if they didn't turn off lights which weren't even interfering with them and have arrested journalists only to release them later WITHOUT charging them. This is the NYPD in the 80s only they have fewer bell bottoms and ****tier haircuts.
 
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Hatuey said:
Lmao, you're saying the Ferguson PD has no history of corruption? You sure about that or do I need to post the links again?

Let's start with the fact that the organization seems to enjoy beating suspects:

The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie - The Daily Beast
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Big deal. Years ago.
It is irrelevant.
And it is especially irrelevant to the evidence in this case.


Hatuey said:
The fact that it cooks the numbers on its misconduct allegations:

Before Mike Brown Shooting, Ferguson Police Department Had History Of Misconduct Allegations

Then there are the constant and recorded threats by police to reports. The fact that they've released supposedly damning information only to later claim it is not relevant to the shooting itself etc. Yeah, this department is corrupt, that it's protecting one of their own is no shock.
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Irrelevant as your conjecture is.
 
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Mason66 said:
Now there is a surprise. I would expect nothing less from the family. The facts be damned.
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Facts? Does anybody have facts yet?
 
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Hatuey said:
And I showed you why their report is inadmissible or should be. They're a corrupt and violent organization that proven that its members work together when it comes to breaking the law. Again, various cops beat down a man, various cops admit that he didn't do anything wrong and they lied as a group. The organization sends a report that goes through various people before being sent and it's returned because it's found to be not only wrong but completely illogical. This is a corrupt group defending one of their own. Their statements are not to be trusted or admitted into a court of law.
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It's an embarrassment that it's being portrayed that cops are shooting black youth at an alarming rate.

The rate is like.....almost never.

Completely concocted issue from brainwashed citizenry.
 
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Excon said:
Unlikely.
1.) There is no credible source that says he was surrendering.
2.) An eye witness account makes that scenario highly unlikely. As Brown was approaching the Officer as the Officer was shooting. That is not indicative of surrendering.


Only if just one of many wrong things are done.
Hopefully it doesn't make it that far, as it certainly shouldn't.
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I predict that you will be very upset if the cop in this case is convicted and sent off to the hoosegow.

I don't know that is going to happen, but it's certainly a possibility right now.
 
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Hatuey said:
And I showed you why their report is inadmissible or should be. They're a corrupt and violent organization that proven that its members work together when it comes to breaking the law. Again, various cops beat down a man, various cops admit that he didn't do anything wrong and they lied as a group. The organization sends a report that goes through various people before being sent and it's returned because it's found to be not only wrong but completely illogical. This is a corrupt group defending one of their own. Their statements are not to be trusted or admitted into a court of law.
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Sorry Lord Vader, but that's not how it works on this patch of the planet.

Based on your test, testimony from witnesses for the defense should not be admissible since it's known such witnesses frequently lie.
 
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Hatuey said:
No, based on that their report on this matter shouldn't be taken at face value. They are a corrupt organization that has shown itself to lie if need be to protect its employees.
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Not what you said. You said it was inadmissible due to their "history of corruption", and you are wrong.
 
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Excon said:
Big deal. Years ago, and no further evidence of such activity.
It is irrelevant.
And it is especially irrelevant to the evidence in this case.
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LMAO - this from the guy who keeps drumming up an alleged robbery as proof of Michael Brown's character. You're showing your inconsistency.

Irrelevant as your conjecture is.
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That's your opinion. However, it seems to get you riled enough to keep responding. It must hurt being told that the Ferguson PD are nothing but a bunch of corrupt thugs, huh? :shrug:
 
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tres borrachos said:
Not what you said. You said it was inadmissible due to their "history of corruption"
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And it is - a court of law that examines Michael Browns' supposed character is going to examine the character of the Ferguson PD and come to the conclusion that a PD that has a history of corruption has a conflict of interest when it comes to defending one of its own police officers.
 
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Montecresto said:
Facts? Does anybody have facts yet?
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The 18-year old Black man who was shot 6- times and is now dead and buried isn't worried about what's for breakfast tomorrow.

That's a fact that you can bet your last dollar on.
 
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ocean515 said:
Sorry Lord Vader, but that's not how it works on this patch of the planet.

Based on your test, testimony from witnesses for the defense should not be admissible since it's known such witnesses frequently lie.
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And yet - not all witnesses lie. However, as we know, the Ferguson Police Department showed itself to be corrupt. It has trumped up false charges, arrested people without cause, beaten innocent men, lied about the suspects' and their activities etc.
 
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shrubnose said:
I predict that you will be very upset if the cop in this case is convicted and sent off to the hoosegow.
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I can tell you, you are wrong as usual, which of course will just go in one nostril and out the other. So there is no point in that.
So how do you expect to prove such nonsense?


shrubnose said:
I don't know that is going to happen, but it's certainly a possibility right now.
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A possibility as of now? No it is not.
 
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Hatuey said:
And it is - a court of law that examines Michael Browns' supposed character is going to examine the character of the Ferguson PD and come to the conclusion that a PD that has a history of corruption has a conflict of interest when it comes to defending one of its own police officers.
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Not the robbery?
How about the examination of Wilson's character?
 
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Hatuey said:
And yet - not all witnesses lie. However, as we know, the Ferguson Police Department showed itself to be corrupt. It has trumped up false charges, arrested people without cause, beaten innocent men, lied about the suspects' and their activities etc.
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Not all Ferguson Police lie. Not all defense witnesses lie. So what should be the lie/truth ratio before one is accepted or rejected?
 
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Hatuey said:
And it is - a court of law that examines Michael Browns' supposed character is going to examine the character of the Ferguson PD and come to the conclusion that a PD that has a history of corruption has a conflict of interest when it comes to defending one of its own police officers.
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Once again, the police report is not "inadmissible", in fact, it's just the opposite. It's what will be presented to the grand jury. The police are NOT on trial. A single man is. FFS Hatuey, stop.
 
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