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Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police[W:302,693:992]

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Fruityfact said:
"Lawyers for Brown's family said the results of of the preliminary autopsy support witness accounts that Brown was trying to surrender when he was shot."
Ferguson: Live updates on day 9

Take it with a grain of salt, but I'd take this source with more credence than Excon and his conjecturing
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:doh

:lamo

1.) That does not back up the families position.
2.) You do not know what conjecture is as the factual evidence and what it represents is not conjecture.
3.) All you are doing is showing that you do not know the evidence at the time of your post.
 
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The German said:
The autopsy report clearly underlines that there were NO signs of a struggle on Browns body.
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Irrelevant to the rest of the evidence.
Even his cohort says he struggled with the Officer.
 
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rocket88 said:
Which we don't know that it is.
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I am sure it was already pointed out... but damn?

A week into this and you don't know the evidence?

His family has confirmed it was him.
His cohort has confirmed it was him.
The person in the video had the same damn clothes on.
:doh
This was already revealed.
 
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dirtpoorchris said:
he was shot AT as he was running. He then surrendered after he heard shots. Im guessing he didnt get hit until he became a motionless target.
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You are guessing on all of it, actually.
 
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Tettsuo said:
Unless it's stated otherwise, the officer didn't know that Brown was a suspect and stopped him only because they were walking in the street.
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I am sure someone must have pointed it out by now. But you are wrong because that is incomplete.
They engaged the first time and the Officer drove further down the road when he then became informed of the strong-arm robbery suspects. He returned to engage.


The whole day/time you have been speaking nonsense because you didn't know what the evidence was.
What a shame.
 
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Excon said:
I am sure someone must have pointed it out by now. But you are wrong because that is incomplete.
They engaged the first time and the Officer drove further down the road when he then became informed of the strong-arm robbery suspects. He returned to engage.
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I think if they find a bullet discharged inside the vehicle, it will be tough to convict the officer because it will make his story the most rational explanation for what happened. If they find a bullet in the car it pretty much verifies that Brown(at some point) was the aggressor and tried to take the officer's gun. At that point how do you defend ANY ACTIONS Brown would have taken after that?!
 
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Tettsuo said:
Funny they waited until the forensic report before coming out with a statement.
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If that is an issued statement, that account was already known. So insinuating that it has any relevance to the release of the non-official forensics report is nonsense.
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
What more do they need. 6 times! 2 in the head! No signs of struggle! This is ridiculous. He needs to be arrested.
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Your understanding of the actual evidence is flawed.
 
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Caine said:
Holy dog****.... I didn't know you were an expert in investigating gunshot wounds.

There would be MANY different scenarios that provide that outcome, you chose the one you wanted to sympathize with.
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Dr. Baden addressed the forearm wound and said that it could've been the result of Brown turning around OR putting his arms up in a defensive posture. http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...mes-police-use-w-302-a-28.html#post1063654792
 
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Excon said:
:doh

:lamo

1.) That does not back up the families position.
2.) You do not know what conjecture is as the factual evidence and what it represents is not conjecture.
3.) All you are doing is showing that you do not know the evidence at the time of your post.
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A little bit of reading (or watching the press release) will tell anyone that the lawyers were patently lying through their teeth. What the lawyers said in the conference (back-to-front execution style) contradicts the findings of the report. Parks conveniently ignores Baden's suggestion that the head wound could likely be because Brown was charging towards Wilson. It would be cute, except this situation is extremely serious and this fact-bending is getting tedious.

The lawyers think the autopsy definitively supports their witness accounts. The preliminary autopsy actually, so far, shreds any witness the prosecution have and every single story of events that they have fabricated so far (not an "innocent" "kid", not minding their own business, not shot in the back, likely doubled back)
 
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Excon said:
Your comments are absurd.
The thug attacked the Officer and went for the Officer's gun. That is a life threatening incident.
Then as the Officer gained control of his weapon, Brown tried to flee, the Officer got out of his car and Brown then started charging him.

Only six shots? Justified.
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How could he have been going for the officers gun and shot at a distance at the same time?
 
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poweRob said:
How could he have been going for the officers gun and shot at a distance at the same time?
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At least try and learn the evidence before you engage in discussion, will ya?
The Officer was in his vehicle when the struggle over the gun ensued.
It discharged.
The Officer was injured in the struggle.

Brown ran a short distance after the struggle.
The Officer got out of his vehicle.
Brown turned to engage the Officer again, moving towards (charging) his position.
The Officer fires upon him. As the eyewitness describes, he thought the Officer was missing because Brown kept moving toward him.
 
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Excon said:
Your comments are absurd.
The thug attacked the Officer and went for the Officer's gun. That is a life threatening incident.
Then as the Officer gained control of his weapon, Brown tried to flee, the Officer got out of his car and Brown then started charging him.

Only six shots? Justified.
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The facts of what happened in the incident are as of yet unclear.

What is currently known (i. e. fully documented) is that the cops in Ferguson have demonstrated a keen proficiency of making total, complete asses of themselves and in turn embarrassing the country in the process.
 
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solletica said:
The facts of what happened in the incident are as of yet unclear.

What is currently known (i. e. fully documented) is that the cops in Ferguson have demonstrated a keen proficiency of making total, complete asses of themselves and in turn embarrassing the country in the process.
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What is known is known, what isn't, isn't.
Learn the evidence. It is pretty clear.
But what is for sure, is you know not of what you speak.
 
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Excon said:
At least try and learn the evidence before you engage in discussion, will ya?
The Officer was in his vehicle when the struggle over the gun ensued.
It discharged.
The Officer was injured in the struggle.

Brown ran a short distance after the struggle.
The Officer got out of his vehicle.
Brown turned to engage the Officer again, moving towards (charging) his position.
The Officer fires upon him. As the eyewitness describes, he thought the Officer was missing because Brown kept moving toward him.
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At least I'm still waiting for evidence before full on saying I know what happened.

riiigght. YOu only need one side of evidence to make a conclusion.

Strike that... you don't need any before you weigh in on authority's side every time. Let's see... a shooting happens, cops don't question to witnesses, witnesses had Brown with his hands in surrender position, autopsy supports this being that Brown gets shot in the palm of the hand...

Yep. Open and closed. Cops did absolutely nothing wrong. :lamo
 
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The only thing I know is that for a case like this, facts won't matter to the people who seek to make this an issue. Once people make up their minds about what happened (even in absence of any and all evidence), they stick with it unless something drastic happens (like a crystal clear video of the event completely disproving their theory of what happened). Any and all evidence will be scanned with utmost care to find even the minutest of detail that supports their own theory of the event. Once that tiny detail is found, they will disregard all other evidence. If that isn't enough, they will fabricate evidence in their own minds to fill that gap and keep talking with people who agree with them so that they can validate each others' false beliefs. Trying to re-educate these individuals will be nearly impossible and they will be "SO SHOCKED/SUPRISED/PISSED" when reality hits and it doesn't go the way they think it should.

In the meantime, innocent people will be harmed as a result of the shenanigans surrounding this event.
 
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poweRob said:
At least I'm still waiting for evidence before full on saying I know what happened.

riiigght. YOu only need one side of evidence to make a conclusion.

Strike that... you don't need any before you weigh in on authority's side every time. Let's see... a shooting happens, cops don't question to witnesses, witnesses had Brown with his hands in surrender position, autopsy supports this being that Brown gets shot in the palm of the hand...

Yep. Open and closed. Cops did absolutely nothing wrong. :lamo
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You are speaking nonsense simply because the evidence doesn't agree with you. That is all.

What I presented to you is what is known from the combined sources of the witnesses (one which was his cohort) and that which was revealed by the Chief.
Like I said, learn the evidence before attempting to engage in a discussion of it.
 
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Excon said:
You are speaking nonsense simply because the evidence doesn't agree with you. That is all.

What I presented to you is what is known from the combined sources of the witnesses (one which was his cohort) and that which was revealed by the Chief.
Like I said, learn the evidence before attempting to engage in a discussion of it.
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Yes. The evidence you accept is what is expressed by the authority and guess what? The authority exonerates itself. Go figure?... And you eat it up 100% without question.
 
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poweRob said:
Yes. The evidence you accept is what is expressed by the authority and guess what? The authority exonerates itself. Go figure?... And you eat it up 100% without question.
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And again you are speaking nonsense.
Learn the damn evidence if you are going to try and discuss it.
 
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Excon said:
And again you are speaking nonsense.
Learn the damn evidence if you are going to try and discuss it.
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No need to get all butthurt just because someone shows you the truth that you don't want to see. I've just reiterated what you said basically. You said the cops are saying X... and you believe it 100% without question. Don't know what your beef is.
 
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Excon said:
What is known is known, what isn't, isn't.
Learn the evidence. It is pretty clear.
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Please cite photographic/visual evidence that documents your version of the events.

Excon said:
But what is for sure, is you know not of what you speak.
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No, the cops making total, incompetent asses of themselves has been documented by the very journalists that are covering them. . .

Police in Ferguson arrest and threaten more journalists - The Washington Post

which has been confirmed by every other media outlet.

The actual account of the shooting, however, has been disputed, and therefore requires further evidence to substantiate it. When you progress beyond the limbaugh-state of your intellectual development, you will learn these words: cite, evidence, etc.
 
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AJiveMan said:
Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times; police use more tear gas on protesters | Fox News

So, the pig just basically was enraged that he got his ass whooped, and decided to empty his pistol into someone kneeling on the ground with his hands in the air in surrender.

Kind of like a gangland murder.
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wow. some serious issues with the police. How about waiting for the facts before such stupid anger.
 
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Your Star said:
You don't get shot in the palm of the hand like Brown did unless you're putting your hands up to surrender.
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how many fighting styles are you familiar with?
 
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poweRob said:
No need to get all butthurt just because someone shows you the truth that you don't want to see. I've just reiterated what you said basically. You said the cops are saying X... and you believe it 100% without question. Don't know what your beef is.
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No.
You are the one that appears to be butt hurt because you don't know the evidence.

Like I said, learn the evidence if you are going to attempt to discuss it.

And since you have already been informed that that evidence includes that from the criminal cohort, your claim of believing something without question,is an absurd lie.
 
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