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While I appreciate the sentiment I find the broad brush strokes undermine the point you are trying to make. God knows I am guilty of the same numerous times, but if you want to take down the wall you can certainly start by dropping the categorical indictments of the "left" and "right" because in most cases you will find the lines are far more blurred than that.

I disagree. Largely with the term most. Most right/left wingers don't blur anything. They follow what their party says blindly.
 
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Makes sense, the right generally favors order.

Cop shootings and self defense shootings don't bring order. Especially in cases where it could be avoided. Speaking generally because this case is not clear yet.
 
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I get that but as i illustrated, the right, left, and neutral have good reason for backing the cop. None for the suspect.

And i dont agree nor disagree with any shooter claiming self defense until other info becomes available. I do know that dead men tell no tales and if there is only one narrative of what happened, then that will likely be the end of it.
 
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Did the clerk receive medical treatment?

I don't know, but what difference does that make?
 
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From WaPo:

FERGUSON, Mo. — An unarmed black teenager had marijuana in his system when he was fatally shot six times by a white police officer, two people familiar with the official county autopsy of Michael Brown said Monday.

The autopsy by St. Louis County chief medical examiner Mary Case, released to state prosecutors late Friday, found that Brown, 18, had six gunshot wounds to the head and chest and was shot from the front, the people said. They spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of Brown’s death, which has triggered violent protests in this St. Louis suburb that continued Sunday night.

In a brief interview with The Washington Post, Case declined to comment on specifics of her examination of Brown’s body but said she welcomes the two other autopsies being performed. One was done Sunday by forensic pathologists Michael Baden and Shawn Parcells, and Case said the second — ordered on Sunday by Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. — will be done by Pentagon medical examiners. County autopsy: Michael Brown shot 6 times from front, had marijuana in system - The Washington Post

And I don't understand why a third autopsy is being conducted.

When is Holder going to head to Chicago and start worrying about the young black men who are blowing each other's heads off weekly?
 
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He wont because that doesnt get the lefts motor running. Hang a cop? Theyll have a field day
 
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When convinced they won't fire upon you, yes. Never met a real bully before?

How could he convinced of that when the cop fired from the car?
 
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And, he was shot because he assaulted the cop. :shrug:

Possibly. We really don't know because there's no video of the encounter.

Some PDs have taken to having the officers wear small cameras so that there is always video backup of the actual incident. Imagine how this would be if there was such a thing in Ferguson. It would all be in the video, no question about what happened.
 
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Cop shootings and self defense shootings don't bring order. Especially in cases where it could be avoided. Speaking generally because this case is not clear yet.

When Hasan was shot by a cop, order at the Fort Hood medical clinic very quickly.
 
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I don't know, but what difference does that make?

I'm just trying to gauge the level of violence.
 
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When is Holder going to head to Chicago and start worrying about the young black men who are blowing each other's heads off weekly?

When it's being done by cops and the government can do something about it. You don't think gang leaders really care about what the AG has to say, do you?

Shouldn't they have the right to open carry? Maybe they feel threatened.
 
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Possibly. We really don't know because there's no video of the encounter.

Some PDs have taken to having the officers wear small cameras so that there is always video backup of the actual incident. Imagine how this would be if there was such a thing in Ferguson. It would all be in the video, no question about what happened.

The evidence is pointing to that probability more and more, however.

Based just on personal credibility, the decision favors the cop: a crook vs. a cop with a spotless, 6 year record.
 
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I'm just trying to gauge the level of violence.

You haven't seen it?

Anyways, what level of violence is acceptable to you?
 
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When it's being done by cops and the government can do something about it.

Shouldn't they have the right to open carry? Maybe they feel threatened.

You have to talk to the lawmakers in IL. They're the ones who think guns are bad, not me.

So the shootings in Chicago should just be ignored by Holder? Of course. No problems there.
 
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How could he convinced of that when the cop fired from the car?

How do you know the cop fired from the car?
 
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Cop shootings and self defense shootings don't bring order. Especially in cases where it could be avoided. Speaking generally because this case is not clear yet.

Perhaps, but my comment was offered as to why the right tend to support the police's story rather than the criminal's right off the bat. Police are indeed the symbol of order, criminals, disorder.
 
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When it's being done by cops and the government can do something about it. You don't think gang leaders really care about what the AG has to say, do you?

Shouldn't they have the right to open carry? Maybe they feel threatened.

That's a gigantic cop out! no pun intended
 
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You have to talk to the lawmakers in IL. They're the ones who think guns are bad, not me.

So the shootings in Chicago should just be ignored by Holder? Of course. No problems there.

So all these gang leaders are going to give a **** what the Attorney General says? They listen to laws all the time, don't they? :lamo

When it's a government agency doing it, the government can do something. Gang leaders don't care what the law is.
 
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When it's being done by cops and the government can do something about it.

Shouldn't they have the right to open carry? Maybe they feel threatened.

Interesting you say that because i believe guns are illegal in chicago period. Maybe if LAWFUL gun owners could carry their would be fewer killings.

And if holder gave one rats or the president they would make an address of the situation in chicago.

Problem is its not just chicago. Detroit, birmingham, atlanta, miami. Young black youths are killing eachother every where
 
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That's a gigantic cop out! no pun intended

Why? Why do you think gangs are going to listen to the AG? Cops will.
 
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How do you know the cop fired from the car?

The same way they know everything else they've been wrong about...lol
 
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You haven't seen it?

Anyways, what level of violence is acceptable to you?

I saw it. It wasn't bum rushing an armed cop violent. It was high school hallway violent.
 
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How could he convinced of that when the cop fired from the car?

Despite the glowing accolades and testimony of the ones who knew him, I don't think the guy was what any of us would call Mr. Good Judgment.
 
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Why? Why do you think gangs are going to listen to the AG? Cops will.

The cops will listen when the DOJ says, "shut these gang-banger mother****ers down"
 
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