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Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police[W:302,693:992]

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tres borrachos said:
Since you're opining on what the Southerners are doing, what is your opinion on the people who are saying negative things about the cop (like he executed Brown, and he is a pig, etc.), no matter the circumstances?
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I am waiting for the investigation.

Not trying to find pathetic excuses for the cop before the investigation has finished.
 
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The German said:
What!?

A bunch of right wing Southerners turn up, in the moment a black teen is shot by a white cop and emidiatly defend the cop no matter the circumstances.

Was there ver a point in your nations history in which things turned out another way?

Was there ever a case on this forum in which these people took the side of a middle class, every day black person?

And then the same people post stuff like "liberals are KKK members" "Germans are nazis" "Europeans are racist trash" "liberals hate white people".

No. You dont have the slightest bit moral authority to make a judgement over my reaction to this!
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I was wrong, you aren't better than that.
 
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Tettsuo said:
Be detailed please. I made it a point to do so.

What's debunked in my recounting? Again, be specific and support your viewpoint.
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You first. Support your contention that the cop went after Brown once, muchless twice.
 
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jmotivator said:
I was wrong, you aren't better than that.
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Coming from someone like you.

I take that as a compliment.
 
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rocket88 said:
The picture I saw looked pretty white to me. Unless the ID of the cop has changed.

Darren Wilson is Mike Brown

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Thanks for posting this. I had no idea what race Wilson was.

And didn't care.

Still don't.
 
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apdst said:
Wilson figured it out during the stop.
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Prove it. Just you saying it is not proof enough.
 
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The German said:
I am waiting for the investigation.

Not trying to find pathetic excuses for the cop before the investigation has finished.
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You're going to wait for the investigation, but the cop murdered Brown...right?
 
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Tettsuo said:
Prove it. Just you saying it is not proof enough.
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You prove your's, then I'll prove mine.
 
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apdst said:
You're going to wait for the investigation, but the cop murdered Brown...right?
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The murder references were mainly made in reference to the cases I used as comparison.
 
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Taylor said:
It does affect your ability to make rational decisions and can cause panic and paranoia.
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Now you've done it - the DP pot advocates are going to be all over you - pot is the wonder drug and all good things stem from weed, don't you know!
 
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The German said:
The murder references were mainly made in reference to the cases I used as comparison.
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And you claimed those cases were, "very, very, very", similar in comparison. Sounds like your convinced, to me.
 
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The German said:
Still doesnt justify being shot in the streets.
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When the suspect of a strong arm robbery resists detention and tries for the officer's gun, then later charges the officer, yes, yes it does.

The German said:
Good for you.
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And bad for your argument. Not every teen is a thug and pointing out that you were as a teen isn't much of an argument.

The German said:
The officer didnt know about the robbery.
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Fact NOT in evidence. Btw, a couple sources now say he was.

The German said:
He saw two black people, turned them over. And shot one.
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Reduce events and excuse, got it.

The German said:
I wasnt refering to the town as redneck, but to some members of this forum.
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You haven't a clue of the origin or the use of the term, it's well outside your own cultural reference. Your posts demonstrate that handily.

The German said:
****ing hell. Is there some problem in comprehension here? I saked YOU, where I was making a godwin?
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When you invoke Nazis where Nazis were not at discussion you immediately have lost the argument. YOU know what you've posted on this, don't play at dumb.
 
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apdst said:
You first. Support your contention that the cop went after Brown once, muchless twice.
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Okay.

Independent Autopsy Shows No Sign of Struggle in Michael Brown's Shooting - WSJ

Based on his preliminary analysis, Mr. Baden said the body lacked bruising or signs of blows that would have indicated a struggle. Police have said that Michael Brown pushed Officer Darren Wilson into his patrol car, where the two struggled over the officer's gun. The officer then shot Mr. Brown multiple times, before he died about 35 feet away from the car, police said.
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Proof that the officer when after Brown.. unless the officer continued to shoot from the safety of his vehicle. Which is it?
 
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The German said:
I am waiting for the investigation.

Not trying to find pathetic excuses for the cop before the investigation has finished.
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No, you've made it clear your mind is made up from your own concept of how things are in America. If the investigation doesn't comport with your fixed conclusion you will argue that it was a bad investigation.
 
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Tettsuo said:
First, the cop backup to approach Brown for jaywalking. This shows the state of mind the officer was in, not Brown.

Then, the cop got out of his vehicle, gun drawn even after Brown moved away from the officer.

So yeah, the officer "when after" Brown... twice.
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The officer made contact with a suspect doing something illegal which shows what state of mind exactly?

Isn't that his job?
 
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Tettsuo said:
Okay.

Independent Autopsy Shows No Sign of Struggle in Michael Brown's Shooting - WSJ



Proof that the officer when after Brown.. unless the officer continued to shoot from the safety of his vehicle. Which is it?
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You're relying, as the press are reporting upon incomplete preliminary data, which the doctor who performed the autopsy has been reminding folks. They haven't even had the chance yet to examine Brown's clothing.
 
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apdst said:
And you claimed those cases were, "very, very, very", similar in comparison. Sounds like your convinced, to me.
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There is a difference between being convinved and believing something.

Do you understand that there is a difference between these two?
 
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The German said:
A bunch of right wing Southerners turn up, in the moment a black teen is shot by a white cop and emidiatly defend the cop no matter the circumstances.
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So by "a bunch of" you mean... one? I see South Dakota representing... Ohio... and by "immediately" do you mean more immediately that the folks wanting the police officer locked in jail before they knew anything but rumors?

Was there ver a point in your nations history in which things turned out another way?
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You should probably get your initial accusation correct before asking this question.

Was there ever a case on this forum in which these people took the side of a middle class, every day black person?
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Yes. The left calls them "Uncle Tom"s.

And then the same people post stuff like "liberals are KKK members" "Germans are nazis" "Europeans are racist trash" "liberals hate white people".
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Can you post an example of me or apdst calling all Germans Nazis? Or that liberals hate white people? I do say that the KKK was founded by Democrats (not liberals) but that is only because it is historically accurate.

No. You dont have the slightest bit moral authority to make a judgement over my reaction to this!
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You state a bunch of lies and then lecture others about moral authority?
 
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The German said:
There is a difference between being convinved and believing something.

Do you understand that there is a difference between these two?
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Explain what the difference means to you, you're splitting hairs now that your slip is showing.
 
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The German said:
There is a difference between being convinved and believing something.

Do you understand that there is a difference between these two?
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Yeah, about as much difference between the guy who ran the gas chamber and the guy who ran the ovens at Auschwitz.
 
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WillyPete said:
Obviously we are speculating, but as that head shots were likely the final shots that struck Brown, it's not unlikely he was falling to the ground as they arrived.
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I don't know what the training is like in the US or for this officer in particular, but it's clear here in Toronto, Canada that our police are trained to shoot to kill when dealing with a violent person who refuses instructions and is behaving in a manner that can be dangerous to the officer or to civilians. Officers will continue to shoot at a suspect until they are on the ground and incapacitated if they start to shoot at all. There is no middle ground. Only on TV do they talk about shooting to wound, like shooting at the legs - they are trained to shoot at the torso and to continue to shoot until the threat is ended.
 
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contrapositive said:
I'm new here!

It seemed that the Brown family's attorneys were lying through their teeth in the press conference. I don't see how the autopsy picture suggests he was shot from a back-to-front manner (as Crump and Park stated). The autopsy suggested he was shot from the front, how the attorneys could say otherwise....how? Also, in a cellphone video (Mike Brown EyeWitness Crime Scene Video Ferguson, MO - YouTube), there is a discussion around 6:28 with an eyewitness saying that Brown doubled back and rushed towards the police officer..

It seemed as if Baden was pressured into not saying that it was possible Brown was charging at officer Wilson, he was crowded and at the end ushered off by Crump, who said to a someone in the audience "we don't need to answer your question. Let's go, let's go."

Am I missing anything? How can the attorneys twist the autopsy picture to say that he was shot in a back-to-front manner?
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It is the conversations in the background of the video that is significant of an eyewitness that gives an account that matches the one that the friend of the officer Wilson's friend told on a radio program.

Audible transcript

#1 How’d he get from there to there?

#2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck

{crosstalk}

#2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the police got out and ran after him

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#2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus - the police had his gun drawn already on him –

#1. Oh, the police got his gun

#2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him

{crosstalk}

#2 Police fired shots – the next thing I know – the police was missing

#1 The Police?

#2 The Police shot him

#1 Police?

#2 The next thing I know … I’m thinking … the dude started running … (garbled something about “he took it from him”)

Eyewitness: Michael Brown Ran from Cop Car, 'Doubled Back' and Charged at Officers
 
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clownboy said:
When the suspect of a strong arm robbery resists detention and tries for the officer's gun, then later charges the officer, yes, yes it does.
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Did he?

And bad for your argument. Not every teen is a thug and pointing out that you were as a teen isn't much of an argument.
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being called a thug by someone like you is a compliment.

Fact NOT in evidence. Btw, a couple sources now say he was.
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Which sources? "White POWER Texas News Daily"? "The Mississipi Niggerhead"? "Fox News"?

Reduce events and excuse, got it.
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derp

You haven't a clue of the origin or the use of the term, it's well outside your own cultural reference. Your posts demonstrate that handily.
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The orignin of the term is as far as I know a reference to working class peoples on farms during the 19th century. But I am not sure if that is true.

What I do know however, is that the origin of the term is irrelevant and that the current definition and assosciation is what matters.

When you invoke Nazis where Nazis were not at discussion you immediately have lost the argument. YOU know what you've posted on this, don't play at dumb.
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I mocked. A totalitarian attitude with a meme and followed it up with an argument.

Or were you to leazy to read it.

By the way. When I call people of your kind "dumb", the first thing they do is calling the mods.
 
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