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Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police[W:302,693:992]

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If Brown had just committed a robbery, then that may impact his reaction to the sudden appearance of a police cruiser.

That should be plain enough to anyone.

When this goes to a grand jury and if this ever goes to trial, the robbery will be brought up. I don't see why people are upset about them telling us about it now rather than later. It's something the public should be told. They should tell us what they know is a fact as soon as they know it, and factual evidence like a video is relevant.
 
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rocket88 said:
Well, it would mean that this video isn't evidence in this case.
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Not true, if it's proven that it is in fact him in the video, which nobody has denied.
 
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This is a bad day for race-baiting liberals.
 
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Thorgasm said:
It doesn't give you false courage or blind rage. I've smoked pot with lots of people and it doesn't impair people to the point of charging someone pointing a gun at you.
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So have I, but I've seen some folks who are ridiculous on straight pot. Some folks really do get **** faced.
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
The basis of this of this case is not what position brown was in at the time he was shot. The basis of this case is why did the officer shoot brown in the first place.
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What case? Is there a basis for making one against the officer? Thus far we only have discredited evidence from one or two eyewitnesses.
 
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rocket88 said:
Which makes killing him justifiable?
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If he assaulted the cop and tried to take the cops gun, then it was a clean shoot. Stop trying to suggest that Wilson picked a random black dude to gun down.
 
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Thorgasm said:
It doesn't give you false courage or blind rage. I've smoked pot with lots of people and it doesn't impair people to the point of charging someone pointing a gun at you.
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It gives me the munchies and makes me laugh like a damn hyena.
 
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rocket88 said:
Well, it would mean that this video isn't evidence in this case.
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Whether it is, or isn't, the fact that Brown robbed a store doesn't change.
 
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clownboy said:
So have I, but I've seen some folks who are ridiculous on straight pot. Some folks really do get **** faced.
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Maybe first time smokers. I doubt this kid was.
 
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rocket88 said:
Yes, the person in the video was. We don't know who that is for sure.
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Well, the family has already admitted that is him. Hence the accusations of "character assassination".
 
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clownboy said:
Once again, reduce and excuse, that's all you have. We continue to bring it up because it's 100% relevant. We don't know as yet when the officer learned he had robbery suspects on his hands. THAT may have been why he "pulled them over". No it wasn't why he initially warned them to get out of the street.
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Police: Officer Wasn't Aware Michael Brown Was Suspect in Alleged Robbery - WSJ

Chief Thomas Jackson also released documents and surveillance video, alleging that Mr. Brown was tied to a robbery at a convenience store shortly before he crossed paths with police. Hours later, Mr. Jackson held another news conference in which he said Mr. Wilson, who is white, wasn't aware of the robbery when he stopped Mr. Brown.
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Unless it's stated otherwise, the officer didn't know that Brown was a suspect and stopped him only because they were walking in the street.
 
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Erod said:
If you attack an officer, you should be shot and killed there on the spot. Period.

If that's what happened, open and shut case. Justified.
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Glad you don't make the rules, and the department of justice supports no such blanket policy.
 
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JayDubya said:
If Brown had just committed a robbery, then that may impact his reaction to the sudden appearance of a police cruiser.

That should be plain enough to anyone.

When this goes to a grand jury and if this ever goes to trial, the robbery will be brought up. I don't see why people are upset about them telling us about it now rather than later. It's something the public should be told. They should tell us what they know is a fact as soon as they know it, and factual evidence like a video is relevant.
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Ummm, the cop when after Brown. That's a fact. There was no reaction to a police cruiser as far as we know.

It's interesting how all of the accusations, rather far-fetched ones at that, are falling on the murdered young man.
 
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I'm new here!

It seemed that the Brown family's attorneys were lying through their teeth in the press conference. I don't see how the autopsy picture suggests he was shot from a back-to-front manner (as Crump and Park stated). The autopsy suggested he was shot from the front, how the attorneys could say otherwise....how? Also, in a cellphone video (Mike Brown EyeWitness Crime Scene Video Ferguson, MO - YouTube), there is a discussion around 6:28 with an eyewitness saying that Brown doubled back and rushed towards the police officer..

It seemed as if Baden was pressured into not saying that it was possible Brown was charging at officer Wilson, he was crowded and at the end ushered off by Crump, who said to a someone in the audience "we don't need to answer your question. Let's go, let's go."

Am I missing anything? How can the attorneys twist the autopsy picture to say that he was shot in a back-to-front manner?
 
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Tettsuo said:
Ummm, the cop when after Brown. That's a fact. There was no reaction to a police cruiser as far as we know.

It's interesting how all of the accusations, rather far-fetched ones at that, are falling on the murdered young man.
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What do you mean "went after"? Do you mean made contact?
 
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clownboy said:
You've been watching way too many old movies.
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That stereotype isnt that old.
 
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Tettsuo said:
Ummm, the cop when after Brown. That's a fact. There was no reaction to a police cruiser as far as we know.

It's interesting how all of the accusations, rather far-fetched ones at that, are falling on the murdered young man.
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The evidence that's been revealed so far debunks that version.
 
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jmotivator said:
You are better than that.
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What!?

A bunch of right wing Southerners turn up, in the moment a black teen is shot by a white cop and emidiatly defend the cop no matter the circumstances.

Was there ver a point in your nations history in which things turned out another way?

Was there ever a case on this forum in which these people took the side of a middle class, every day black person?

And then the same people post stuff like "liberals are KKK members" "Germans are nazis" "Europeans are racist trash" "liberals hate white people".

No. You dont have the slightest bit moral authority to make a judgement over my reaction to this!
 
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rocket88 said:
Forget about narrative and focus on facts.

1) Brown is dead BECAUSE he was shot by this cop. Nobody is disputing that.
2) 2 of those shots were directly to the head (Autopsy: Michael Brown shot six times, twice in the head - The Washington Post)
3) The autopsy showed no evidence of a struggle (Michael Brown autopsy: No signs of struggle in fatal shooting - LA Times)

I'm willing to be open-minded and wait for ALL of the evidence. Yet many are jumping to conclusions.
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And, he was shot because he assaulted the cop. :shrug:
 
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clownboy said:
Not what happened here. This was a violent strong arm robbery. Doesn't matter what was stolen, it's how it was stolen.
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Still doesnt justify being shot in the streets.
I was anything but an angel in my teen years, but I didn't steal from people and I didn't assault them either. I'm sorry, your bad behavior doesn't justify/excuse strong arm robbery.
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Good for you.
Like the fact the officer had a legitimate cause to pull these two over and detain them that has nothing to do with race. Like the fact the accomplice tried to play witness and get ahead of events but had elements of his statement proven wrong. Like the fact that nothing in this event has **** all to do with race until the aftermath.
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The officer didnt know about the robbery.

He saw two black people, turned them over. And shot one.

You so obviously don't have a clue what a redneck is, otherwise you'd know this was not a redneck town, at all.
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I wasnt refering to the town as redneck, but to some members of this forum.

Try a search engine and educate yourself.
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****ing hell. Is there some problem in comprehension here? I saked YOU, where I was making a godwin?
 
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The German said:
What!?

A bunch of right wing Southerners turn up, in the moment a black teen is shot by a white cop and emidiatly defend the cop no matter the circumstances.

Was there ver a point in your nations history in which things turned out another way?

Was there ever a case on this forum in which these people took the side of a middle class, every day black person?

And then the same people post stuff like "liberals are KKK members" "Germans are nazis" "Europeans are racist trash" "liberals hate white people".

No. You dont have the slightest bit moral authority to make a judgement over my reaction to this!
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Since you're opining on what the Southerners are doing, what is your opinion on the people who are saying negative things about the cop (like he executed Brown, and he is a pig, etc.), no matter the circumstances?
 
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Mason66 said:
What do you mean "went after"? Do you mean made contact?
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First, the cop backup to approach Brown for jaywalking. This shows the state of mind the officer was in, not Brown.

Then, the cop got out of his vehicle, gun drawn even after Brown moved away from the officer.

So yeah, the officer "when after" Brown... twice.
 
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rocket88 said:
Forget about narrative and focus on facts.

1) Brown is dead BECAUSE he was shot by this cop. Nobody is disputing that.
2) 2 of those shots were directly to the head (Autopsy: Michael Brown shot six times, twice in the head - The Washington Post)
3) The autopsy showed no evidence of a struggle (Michael Brown autopsy: No signs of struggle in fatal shooting - LA Times)

I'm willing to be open-minded and wait for ALL of the evidence. Yet many are jumping to conclusions.
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What are the two shots to the head supposed to prove?

As for the struggle,
this is a very important video

You can listen to the narrative that was eventually what drove the mob mentality spreading in the bystanders at the scene of the shooting, but at about the 6:30 mark you here an actual witness in the background telling what he saw which actually corroborates the police narrative. The witness states that Brown ran from the police truck but then turned and went back at the officer who had his gun drawn. That was when the officer started shooting.

It's looking more and more like the narrative of the "witnesses" were people who overheard the crowd talking and decided to claim they saw what happened.

The reason I come to this conclusion is that it is highly unlikely that the witness in this video would by sheer chance tell the exact story the officer told since he never spoke to the officer.
 
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apdst said:
The evidence that's been revealed so far debunks that version.
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Be detailed please. I made it a point to do so.

What's debunked in my recounting? Again, be specific and support your viewpoint.
 
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