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Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police[W:302,693:992]

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Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times; police use more tear gas on protesters | Fox News

So, the pig just basically was enraged that he got his ass whooped, and decided to empty his pistol into someone kneeling on the ground with his hands in the air in surrender.

Kind of like a gangland murder.

Six shots is not empyting the weapon on any semi auto used by any police department I know of.

They all use magazines with ten rounds or more capacity.

The autopsy shwos that all the shots came from the front while Brown was UPRIGHT. It clearly disputes that his hands were raised in an act of surrender.

In fact it supports the officer not the race baiting crowds.

It is not definitive but it is damaging to people making claims like yours.

The officer may still be in the wrong and may still be charged but it is hilarious seeing someone try to spin the limited evidence avialable to the public which would suggest otherwise.
 
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For Brown to be charging, he'd have to be a distance from the officer. That would mean that initially, Brown fled. So the charge theory means that Brown ran away first, then turned and charge the officer after being shot at already?

That theory doesn't make a whole lotta sense.

Sure it does
 
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You're being intentionally conflictive. Not "ANYONE" that wants a shot at it, gets a shot at it. Photographs, up close and detailed are part of the autopsy procedure and are conducted before, during and after the autopsy has been completed, notes are made along the way, measurements are taken, if a wound must be modified for conclusion, the precise reason is stated in the report, with a thorough description of the wound prior to any alterations. Chemical compounds found on and in the body are tested, as with clothing. To satisfy an independent autopsy, all of that (copies) goes with the body for the independent autopsy, which enables the independent teem to virtually view the body as the State team had. any variations of this cast doubt and suspicion that an astute Attorney will exploit. I just completed a 12 month Federal Grand jury service and have now some knowledge of this precise thing.

Fair enough - but if I follow your logic, Dr. Baden didn't conduct a complete autopsy because by his very words he didn't examine the clothing. He states in his report that there was no evidence of gunpowder residue on the body but qualifies that by saying that to be certain, an examination of the clothing would have to take place. That seems to counter what you've presented, although I do appreciate the insight.
 
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It's possible. We don't know for sure, all we know so far is that this is dividing along typical partisan lines in which the conservatives believe the white guy.

I don't even believe that conservatives are racist, but when they all line up to defend the white guy without fail....it makes it seem that way.

This is not a black and white issue. This is a criminal and police issue.
 
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Bryan P. Williams, the cop identified, took to his personal Facebook account and changed his first name to “Scooby” in hope it would keep the public off his tail. The police department is denying this is in fact the killer and is still refusing to release the name of the officer until their investigation is complete.

The cop isn't Bryan Williams, as we all know. It's Darrell Wilson.

But people for whatever reason aren't paying attention to their links, and are posting Bryan Wiliams picture - again.

The name actually released was Willmer, not Williams. It's even in the photo. The idiots who wrote the story wrote Williams. That website is a joke.
 
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I think the toxicology will be a very important piece of information. If Mr. Brown was sober, the cop will be charged. If he was drunk or on a heavy narcotic, the cop will be exonerated. It doesn't make sense for Mr. Brown to charge at him if he was sober.

Does adrenalin count as a drug?
 
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"Lawyers for Brown's family said the results of of the preliminary autopsy support witness accounts that Brown was trying to surrender when he was shot."
Ferguson: Live updates on day 9

Take it with a grain of salt, but I'd take this source with more credence than Excon and his conjecturing

How does Browns family know any more than a poster here?

We are all looking at the same evidence, but who has reason to lie?
 
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Actually it does not disproves the witnesses.

Until we know exactly how many shots were fired, we don't know if Brown stopped and turned after being shot at while he trying to get away and the cop simply missed. In fact, the autopsy states all six shots were not the cause of all of the wounds.


It definitely proves he wasn't shot in the back.

And the footage of him strong arm robbing a convenience store proves he wasn't a " gentle giant ".
 
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How does Browns family know any more than a poster here?

We are all looking at the same evidence, but who has reason to lie?

Well it was their Lawyer...
Who has a reason to lie? The guilty party(don't discount the police)
 
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The name actually released was Willmer, not Williams. It's even in the photo. The idiots who wrote the story wrote Williams. That website is a joke.

Yup you're right, it was Willmer not Wilson (and Wilmer is what's on his face page). You're right on all accounts, especially the "website is a joke" part, although I don't even know if it's a joke so much as it's a travesty...
 
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Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times; police use more tear gas on protesters | Fox News

So, the pig just basically was enraged that he got his ass whooped, and decided to empty his pistol into someone kneeling on the ground with his hands in the air in surrender.

Kind of like a gangland murder.

So, how many things have the Liberals gotten wrong so far?

1) Brown wasn't walking down the sidewalk minding his own business.

2) He wasn't a sweet little kid that never did anything wrong.

3) He wasn't shot in the back.

4) He was shot 6 times, not 8.

5) The newest one is that the cop "emptied" his pistol into Brown.

The only they got right so far, is that Brown got shot and killed, by a cop; and, Brown DID assault the officer.
 
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Six shots is not empyting the weapon on any semi auto used by any police department I know of.

They all use magazines with ten rounds or more capacity.

The autopsy shwos that all the shots came from the front while Brown was UPRIGHT. It clearly disputes that his hands were raised in an act of surrender.

In fact it supports the officer not the race baiting crowds.

It is not definitive but it is damaging to people making claims like yours.

The officer may still be in the wrong and may still be charged but it is hilarious seeing someone try to spin the limited evidence avialable to the public which would suggest otherwise.

More lies than truth.

If you listened to Dr. Baden, you would see that he was shot in the top of the head. He obviously wasn't standing unless the cop got a ladder.
 
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If you attack an officer, you should be shot and killed there on the spot. Period.

If that's what happened, open and shut case. Justified.
 
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More lies than truth.

If you listened to Dr. Baden, you would see that he was shot in the top of the head. He obviously wasn't standing unless the cop got a ladder.

Or unless he charged the officer head first.

This isn't really that hard.
 
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For Brown to be charging, he'd have to be a distance from the officer. That would mean that initially, Brown fled. So the charge theory means that Brown ran away first, then turned and charge the officer after being shot at already?

That theory doesn't make a whole lotta sense.

Based on what we're finding out, in my view the running away theory doesn't make much sense. It's already been shown through irrefutalble physical evidence that Brown was not running away and shot in the back as his friend and eyewitness said. I think that it's much more likely that the store clerk called 911, gave a description and then the officer happened upon them as they were walking in the street. So Stopping those guys was what the cop should have done and a struggle obviously insued and the cop was injured. We have not heard from the cop yet and remember that things are not looking good for Brown.
 
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More lies than truth.

If you listened to Dr. Baden, you would see that he was shot in the top of the head. He obviously wasn't standing unless the cop got a ladder.

Or he had his head down charging. This is why the Dr says the autopsy tells us nothing about the events either way.
 
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It definitely proves he wasn't shot in the back.

And the footage of him strong arm robbing a convenience store proves he wasn't a " gentle giant ".

Shots could have been fired as Brown moved away from the officer. Something the witness could be correct about, but wrong in regards to Brown getting hit in the back.

As for the footage... that has absolutely nothing to do with the shooting imo.
 
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Reports coming out that he had marijuana in his system.
 
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This morning the coroner held a press conference and said that did the autoposy showed that all of Michael brown's wounds were survivable ...except the shot at the top of his head.


Michael Brown was over six feet tall so his head would have had to have been bent down. His head could have been bent down for any number of reasons (looking down at his wounds, lunging forward toward cop, going down into kneeling position, etc)

The other bullet wounds shown on the chart don't prove or disprove that his arms were raised in surrender when he was shot....but imo it doesn't appear they were.
 
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Or unless he charged the officer head first.

This isn't really that hard.

Have you ever tried to run with your head down in flip flops?
 
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Reports coming out that he had marijuana in his system.

Marijuana doesn't make you charge people with guns.
 
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Well it was their Lawyer...
Who has a reason to lie? The guilty party(don't discount the police)

The lawyer is the mouthpiece for the family. he will say whatever the family tells him to say.

How would the family have more information about this case?

Who has reason to lie? The faily has the most reason to paint their family member as somebody who could never do this.

That is human nature and it is also why family members do not make good witnesses.
 
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Or unless he charged the officer head first.

This isn't really that hard.

Or if one hit him in the head while he was falling, which I assume he did at some point.
 
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Fair enough - but if I follow your logic, Dr. Baden didn't conduct a complete autopsy because by his very words he didn't examine the clothing. He states in his report that there was no evidence of gunpowder residue on the body but qualifies that by saying that to be certain, an examination of the clothing would have to take place. That seems to counter what you've presented, although I do appreciate the insight.

You cannot counter what I presented. If Baden conducted a less than thorough autopsy, then that runs counter to competence, and logic, and not counter to what I presented which I know to be the case having personal experience. There is protocol, but protocol isn't always followed. It's quite possible that the officer that killed Brown didn't follow protocol, its equally possible that he did. But everybody that handles ANY evidence is obliged to preserve its integrity. Sometimes that doesn't happen, and sometimes its due to incompetence, carelessness, and yes, sometimes its intentional. There's little question that this will be a big trial, if a Grand Jury is satisfied of probable cause that the officer failed to follow protocol. And in case you didn't know, Grand Jury's burden is low. They need only find probable cause for indictment. A jury trial jury, must find beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
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Reports coming out that he had marijuana in his system.

Okay, and your point?
 
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