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Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police[W:302,693:992]

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rocket88 said:
It's possible. We don't know for sure, all we know so far is that this is dividing along typical partisan lines in which the conservatives believe the white guy.

I don't even believe that conservatives are racist, but when they all line up to defend the white guy without fail....it makes it seem that way.
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Wait...the cop is white?

I kind of think the rhetoric has been more about bad cop no donut than about white vs black. Certainly considering the reality that black cops have been known to shoot unarmed white folk before. But the one thing that you said that IS correct is that we simply dont know. I dont even think we have the cop version of the story. I have said all along..it may or may not be a righteous shoot. If so...OK. If not...OK. Thats what the courts and justice system is for.
 
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I think the toxicology will be a very important piece of information. If Mr. Brown was sober, the cop will be charged. If he was drunk or on a heavy narcotic, the cop will be exonerated. It doesn't make sense for Mr. Brown to charge at him if he was sober.
 
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Texmex said:
BS! He was shot in the hand and the head. Just because he wasn't shot in the back means he was backing away, not running away.
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Now you are creating narratives that none of the witnesses even claimed. You need an intervention.
 
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VanceMack said:
Wait...the cop is white?

I kind of think the rhetoric has been more about bad cop no donut than about white vs black. Certainly considering the reality that black cops have been known to shoot unarmed white folk before. But the one thing that you said that IS correct is that we simply dont know. I dont even think we have the cop version of the story. I have said all along..it may or may not be a righteous shoot. If so...OK. If not...OK. Thats what the courts and justice system is for.
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Right now the left is just throwing s*** against the wall to see what sticks. All they really want is the outrage, they don't really care why.
 
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"Lawyers for Brown's family said the results of of the preliminary autopsy support witness accounts that Brown was trying to surrender when he was shot."
Ferguson: Live updates on day 9

Take it with a grain of salt, but I'd take this source with more credence than Excon and his conjecturing
 
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rocket88 said:
It's possible. We don't know for sure, all we know so far is that this is dividing along typical partisan lines in which the conservatives believe the white guy.

I don't even believe that conservatives are racist, but when they all line up to defend the white guy without fail....it makes it seem that way.
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:roll:

If I may, I think the accurate way to put it is that many people believe the cop, who happens to be white. What you're selling would suggest "conservatives" wouldn't believe the cop if they were black.

The gross generalizations and race painting really is getting rather old.
 
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jmotivator said:
Now you are creating narratives that none of the witnesses even claimed. You need an intervention.
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Was he shot in the hand and head or not? If the bullets did not enter the back doesn't that mean he was facing this thug cop while he was being murdered?
 
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Thorgasm said:
I think the toxicology will be a very important piece of information. If Mr. Brown was sober, the cop will be charged. If he was drunk or on a heavy narcotic, the cop will be exonerated. It doesn't make sense for Mr. Brown to charge at him if he was sober.
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If Mr. Brown was sober, does it make sense that:
1) He committed a jailable offense for a couple of handfuls of cigars?
2) He nonchalantly walks home carrying said stolen cigars down the middle of the street?
3) After robbing said store, Mr. Brown is stopped by a cop, who asks him to walk on the sidewalk. Was his decision not to comply sensible?

If the toxicology reports come back negative, it only suggests that there was something else wrong with Mr. Brown that day.
 
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jmotivator said:
Right now the left is just throwing s*** against the wall to see what sticks. All they really want is the outrage, they don't really care why.
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Its funny...all the hatred directed towards the cops (dont think i have seen them referred to as 'pigs' so often as recently)...these are the people the anti-gun types believe are better suited to protect others?
 
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Taylor said:
If Mr. Brown was sober, does it make sense that:
1) He committed a jailable offense for a couple of handfuls of cigars?
2) He nonchalantly walks home carrying said stolen cigars down the middle of the street?
3) After robbing said store, Mr. Brown is stopped by a cop, who asks him to walk on the sidewalk. Was his decision not to comply sensible?

If the toxicology reports come back negative, it only suggests that there was something else wrong with Mr. Brown that day.
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Stealing cigars is not on the same level as charging someone who has already fired a gun at you and is currently pointing a gun at you.
 
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Taylor said:
I think it's the series of really stupid decisions that suggests he was likely impaired. Especially if we accept his family's assertion that he was a very gentle person.

People who are thinking clearly don't rob a store and risk jail time for a few cigars, then casually walk home down the middle of the road, a tell a cop to buzz off when all he does is tell you to get on the sidewalk.
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Yeah.

Like I said before, neither scenario makes a lick of sense.

A cop would with a long and unblemished career executes someone needlessly in broad daylight on a crowded street, like he would ever get away with that?

An 18 year old starting college next week with no criminal record grabs a storekeep and threatens him, steals $50 in cigarillos, walks down middle of street drawing more attention to self, then runs at and attacks cop?

One of these retarded things apparently happened...

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VanceMack said:
Its funny...all the hatred directed towards the cops (dont think i have seen them referred to as 'pigs' so often as recently)...these are the people the anti-gun types believe are better suited to protect others?
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I haven't seen cops referred to as "pigs" since I was a little kid in the 70s.

I'm sure everyone who has disdain for these "pigs" also plans to not call 911 in the event that he/she is in trouble and needs the help of a "pig". Wouldn't want one of those nasty "pigs" coming into your house.
 
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Montecresto said:
If the state "cleaned" the body before it would be passed along for independent autopsy, that would be tampering, and a big issue at trial.
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Why would it be tampering? On what grounds? The State's autopsy is the official record, even if subsequent autopsies are conducted. You don't think a body is washed and prepared for release to the family after an autopsy is completed by the State? Why would Baden say that there was no gunshot residue on the body but you'd have to examine the clothing to be sure? Did Brown wear gloves? What other type of clothing do people generally have on their hands?
 
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Thorgasm said:
I think the toxicology will be a very important piece of information. If Mr. Brown was sober, the cop will be charged. If he was drunk or on a heavy narcotic, the cop will be exonerated. It doesn't make sense for Mr. Brown to charge at him if he was sober.
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Sober or intoxicated, he had only minutes before tossed around a store clerk like a rag doll. I'm guessing that scheduling time to review rational logical and respectful decision making wasnt necessarily a priority on doods calendar.
 
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VanceMack said:
Sober or intoxicated, he had only minutes before tossed around a store clerk like a rag doll. I'm guessing that scheduling time to review rational logical and respectful decision making wasnt necessarily a priority on doods calendar.
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He had no reason to fear the guy at the store.
 
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tres borrachos said:
I haven't seen cops referred to as "pigs" since I was a little kid in the 70s.

I'm sure everyone who has disdain for these "pigs" also plans to not call 911 in the event that he/she is in trouble and needs the help of a "pig". Wouldn't want one of those nasty "pigs" coming into your house.
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Personally...I hope the 'pigs' monitor blogs like this, can trace blogs like this, and when someone that makes those types of comments is in need (or their family members) the cops send them a text quoting them followed by a nice "**** off and die, asshole" type response.

Using the term 'pigs' is no different than using any other racist hate filled slang. When it comes out, it only does so because it is always there churning right beneath the surface.
 
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rocket88 said:
It's possible. We don't know for sure, all we know so far is that this is dividing along typical partisan lines in which the conservatives believe the white guy.

I don't even believe that conservatives are racist, but when they all line up to defend the white guy without fail....it makes it seem that way.
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Good morning Rocket - you're usually better/fairer than this.

This conservative is supportive of law enforcement, until proven otherwise, particularly when the "victim" in this case is clearly from evidence presented someone who didn't shrink away from using the brute force of his size to get what he wants. This conservative, under similar circumstances, would be supportive of a black officer who shot a white youth under the same fact base so far.

Claiming conservatives support the officer here because he's white simply feeds into a lot of what's wrong with the manipulation of race by the left in America today.
 
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Thorgasm said:
He had no reason to fear the guy at the store.
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Speaks volumes, huh? Maybe he felt he didnt have any reason to fear cops either.
 
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Thorgasm said:
Stealing cigars is not on the same level as charging someone who has already fired a gun at you and is currently pointing a gun at you.
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I don't see why that matters. Given what we know about his decision making that day, there is really no basis for claiming that so long as he was sober, he must have done the only rational thing at the time.
 
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VanceMack said:
Speaks volumes, huh? Maybe he felt he didnt have any reason to fear cops either.
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That's why I think the toxicology is important.
 
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Thorgasm said:
I think the toxicology will be a very important piece of information. If Mr. Brown was sober, the cop will be charged. If he was drunk or on a heavy narcotic, the cop will be exonerated. It doesn't make sense for Mr. Brown to charge at him if he was sober.
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I don't know about in the US, but I believe here in Canada, under similar circumstances, the officer would also have blood testing done.
 
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Texmex said:
Was he shot in the hand and head or not? If the bullets did not enter the back doesn't that mean he was facing this thug cop while he was being murdered?
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It means the witnesses was in fact lying. The rest of your assertion rests on the eye witness accounts of these proven liars.
 
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Taylor said:
I don't see why that matters. Given what we know about his decision making that day, there is really no basis for claiming that so long as he was sober, he must have done the only rational thing at the time.
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I can't help you if you can't see the difference between the two actions.
 
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CanadaJohn said:
I don't know about in the US, but I believe here in Canada, under similar circumstances, the officer would also have blood testing done.
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I am not sure. I kinda doubt it. The police unions probably protect them from that.
 
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VanceMack said:
Its funny...all the hatred directed towards the cops (dont think i have seen them referred to as 'pigs' so often as recently)...these are the people the anti-gun types believe are better suited to protect others?
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To be fair, I've only seen the author of the OP refer to anyone as a pig and I dismissed him from the start.
 
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