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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Maybe. But this town has fallen way far behind, it has a history of having a racial divide, and when you look at the black population of their city council and police department, it's quite revealing why.
    Oh, I know man, and I'm NOT disputing any of that.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    They're laying down THEIR LAW, intimidating the media now, like they have for the past 40 some years, their city council makes up 7 people, 6 are white, their police force is 53, with 50 whites, what does that tell people? They haven't evolved into accepting that black people can live and walk where ever they want, because they have civil rights too, just like whites do, but they (Ferguson Officials) don't officially recognize blacks, Ferguson has a nasty and dirty history of poor race relations, now, their oppression is rubbing off onto the press. They don't want the truths to be told.
    So how many black people ran for city council? How many black people applied to the police force? How many black people opposed the white mayor?

    A city with the racial makeup of Ferguson could easily vote in an all black council, a black mayor, and appoint a black police chief - and have an all black force if they actually apply for the job.

    That's the truth to be told. Let me know when you have evidence that blacks have been applying for jobs as police officers in droves but are being turned down.

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    AG is partially involved because there's reason to believe the assassinated man's civil rights were violated. 9 out of 10 traffic stops made in Ferguson were black people. The NAACP filed complaints last year.
    Not wildly abnormal when you consider the population of Ferguson is upwards of 75% black. But then if your intent is to bellow racism at every turn, you have to grasp at any straw.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    You know as much and as little about that as anyone else on this planet.
    And again, according to the known evidence it is unlikely.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    What is 'wrong' with them releasing the video is that it destroys that image of the cute soft puppy that those invested in making this a violent racial scene (and lets be clear...there are a LOT of 'they' and 'they' are in the media, on this site, out in the streets...'they' are white and black) tried to depict the victim as. It completely destroys the mental image they were trying to create that has people believing the unopposed visual that once there was this poor gentle kid who went to school and loved his mama and was going to go to college and cure polio...and the poor innocent tender little guy was just minding his own business when a eeeevil police man pulled up next to him and then tried to drag a 6'4"300 pound plus man onto his lap in the drivers seat through the drivers window and when that failed he got angry and came out of his car with his weapon drawn and executed the poor guy while he was on his knees with his hands up beggin the lawd please but no, the evil police man shot him from behind. Or...in front. Or...well...somewhere...you know...eyewitness accounts all are different. They DONT want you to see a guy who only moments before the incident committed a violent act of strong armed robbery and was capable of throwing around people not because they were harassing him but because they were trying to prevent him from robbing them.

    Its no different with the media blitz that came 45 days after the Trayvon Martin shooting. The narrative was cute little boy who was just soft and cuddly and....LOOK at these pictures of him...he's 12...he has cute little cheeks, and he....wait...what are you doing. Dont show those pictures! You cant show pictures of who he is TODAY. You cant show pictures from his own Facebook page or reveal that in fact he had a violent recent history and that he was suspended from school for breaking into peoples lockers. That doesnt jive with what we are trying to present. Thats not fair!
    Yep. This whole thing is being fueled by a media frenzy that has been very loose in reporting on facts. All this crap about how unfair it was for the police department to release that video of Brown involved in a strong arm robbery just prior to his death is absurd as the police department withheld the video for a week. It was due to the media's feckless reporting painting a completely different picture of Brown for a friggin week that pressured the department in releasing the video. It is understandable to any thinking mind that the police department is waiting for all evidence to be collected and reviewed before commenting on the case while these race baiting yahoos along with the media are doing their best to try and convict the officer in the court of public opinion. It was a damn good thing the officer's friend got his account out early on. It is a damn good thing there were those willing to look for evidence in social media to back up his account. And it is a damn good thing there are 12 witnesses that was verified by a local reporter backing the officer's account. And it is a damn good thing the forensic evidence does not disprove his account. Now here is hoping the names of the witnesses remain confidential and do not become public. When dealing with those gang type member types gathering in Ferguson, who they view as snitches end up with stitches.

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    People seem to be jumping to conclusions without knowing anything about the history in this community or having any trace of empathy for citizens that have been mistreated in their own communities for far too long. Instead of looking objectively at the situation the assumption is often made that if they're black they probably did something to warrant being shot.
    It's hard not to wonder what the reactions would be if these same citizens were primarily white and being subjected to this kind of treatment
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    Nothing that's going on in Ferguson right now surprises me.

    If they don't get some real justice there it might be a long time before there's any real peace there.

    People will only take so much abuse before they explode.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Not wildly abnormal when you consider the population of Ferguson is upwards of 75% black. But then if your intent is to bellow racism at every turn, you have to grasp at any straw.
    Well, you do realize that it is blacks doing battle with the white establishment in Ferguson and St. Louis County too, don't you?

    You do realize that the AG will be investigating to see if Brown's civil rights were violated too?

    You do realize that St. Louis county police have stopped blacks in the county and asked them who they were, where they were going, why were they in certain neighborhoods too, don't you?

    This has nothing to do with straw, it is real.

    Moore, who is black, talks of how he has felt the wrath of the police here and in surrounding suburbs for years -- roughed up during a minor traffic stop and prevented from entering a park when he was wearing St. Louis Cardinals red.

    And last week, as he stood at a vigil for an unarmed 18-year-old shot dead by the police -- a shooting that provoked renewed street violence and looting early Saturday -- Moore heard anger welling and listened to a shout of: "We're tired of the racist police department."

    "It broke the camel's back," Moore said of the killing of the teenager, Michael Brown. Referring to the northern part of St. Louis County, he continued, "The people in North County -- not just African-Americans, some of the white people, too -- they are tired of the police harassment."
    http://www.adn.com/article/20140816/...oils-over-rage
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Have you ever served on a Grand Jury? Did you know that the GJ will indict a ham sandwich?!
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    And a prosecutor can get a GJ to indict a ham sandwich is a common saying for a reason.
    The DA's presentation to the GJ matters, but not as much as the evidence.
    Now if he goes in there with the intent to get an indictment, he will not present all the evidence, nor does he have to. Of course that would likely end up like indicting a ham sandwich. It still wouldn't old mustard in Court. And would be a travesty of Justice.
    If the DA goes in there with an honest intent to let the GJ decide by presenting all the evidence, then it is highly unlikely they will return a true bill.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Yep. This whole thing is being fueled by a media frenzy that has been very loose in reporting on facts. All this crap about how unfair it was for the police department to release that video of Brown involved in a strong arm robbery just prior to his death is absurd as the police department withheld the video for a week. It was due to the media's feckless reporting painting a completely different picture of Brown for a friggin week that pressured the department in releasing the video. It is understandable to any thinking mind that the police department is waiting for all evidence to be collected and reviewed before commenting on the case while these race baiting yahoos along with the media are doing their best to try and convict the officer in the court of public opinion. It was a damn good thing the officer's friend got his account out early on. It is a damn good thing there were those willing to look for evidence in social media to back up his account. And it is a damn good thing there are 12 witnesses that was verified by a local reporter backing the officer's account. And it is a damn good thing the forensic evidence does not disprove his account. Now here is hoping the names of the witnesses remain confidential and do not become public. When dealing with those gang type member types gathering in Ferguson, who they view as snitches end up with stitches.
    Leaking information in bits and pieces makes it look like the police and the city are willfully hiding something. They were stupid for doing so.

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    If You Take the Side of the Blind, You Will Get Blindsided


    A video was posted showing Brown's body still on the street. The reactions of the crowd were recorded.

    To this mob, suspicion is proof. That attitude of the crowd shown (whether Black, White, or Brown; Muslim, Christian, or Jew---you know the drill) disqualifies them from ever being on a jury. Unless, of course, the justice system is extorted by the mob to get the verdict the mob wants.

    We, too, out of fear of being accused of fronting for Stormfront, must follow Netiquette and spin this idiocy as being a rational reaction to terminated street trash (of any color!) surrounded by White police. When it happens in our own neighborhood, we should use this as an instructional video on what to say to the media.
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