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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And yet, the organization which represents him does. That makes their reports as inadmissible as the friend's statement.
    Nonsense. Do some research on the US justice system before making such ridiculous statements.

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use[W:302,

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And yet, the organization which represents him does. That makes their reports as inadmissible as the friend's statement.
    Are you disputing the plausibility of the version of events though? It's remarkably consistent with the store footage and preliminary autopsy. Much more so than the other witness testimonies

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    What evidence do you have that he had his hands up?



    I read it in the news reports.

    What evidence do you have that he didn't have his hands up?

    Fill us in.

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    THen why would the shots be on the inside of teh bicep and the palm? Seems more likely to be from a guy down on his belly, propped on his elbows with his hands up. When I run my arms cross to the center of my body with my elbows pointing out more than my hands.

    Also everyone seems to be ignoring the shot that went through his eye, out of teh bottom of his jaw and into his collar bone. That cant happen standing up.
    The shots are consistent with a man running as in raising and lowering his arms.

    The head wounds expecially so as I have demonstrated and proven very clearly that people tend to run bent over somewhat and lower the head presenting the top of their head.

    The officer never said he was standing up but running toward him.

    Some supposed witnesses agree with the officer some supposed witnesses do not. The medical evidence is most consistent with his claim. Other supposed witnesses against this officer have claimed Brown was running away. Throw them out because the shots all hit the front none entered the back. Some have claimed he was kneeling. HAve to throw them out because of the medical evidence once again. STanding with is hands up facing Wilson is also inconsistent with the medical evidence.

    The only way to make the scenario fit the evidence is if as you have said Wilson were laying prone with his head toward the officer. The problem there is none of the witnesses gave any such description and like any other case you need the witnesses who'se description best fits the evidence.

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I read it in the news reports.

    What evidence do you have that he didn't have his hands up?

    Fill us in.

    Charging the Police officer with your hands up is a bit of a contradiction. According to a cell phone recording he turned back towards the officer and ran towards him.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Looks more and more like this kid charged the cop and got exactly what he deserved.

    And when that decision is rendered, and media really starts playing it up a la Trayvon Martin, it's going to get uglier.

    This is really making the black community in Ferguson look horrible, and the media even worse.

    Nationally, people are disgusted by both. And Obama, Holder, Sharpton, Jackson trying to stoke the fires further..........wow, this is not going to play well.

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    That isn't what happened, so you are speaking nonsense.



    You weren't there, Mr. Excon, so you don't know any more than I know, And you could know a lot less.

    My sources might be more accurate than your sources.




    In the long run, only the decision of a court will matter in this case.

    Stay tuned.

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Were they now? When is the arrest for Dorian Johnson? That's right. It isn't.
    Do you not know the evidence concerning him too?
    He has a criminal history, but in this instance, when Brown handed him a box if cigars to take, he placed them back on the counter and is reported to have said, "I don't steal".
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    What was so wrong with releasing the video of Brown involved in a strong arm robbery after days of media coverage depicting Brown as this saintly "gentle giant". Where countless reports in the media reporting he was shot in the back by a white cop? Or other eyewitness accounts that stated he had surrendered and the white cop ruthlessly gunned him down. This became the clarion call for the race baiters like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and social welfare groups to ratchet up the rhetoric and whip the people into a frenzy on the basis of what appears to be lies as evidence is collected and forensics experts have a chance to do their job. The only people who had a problem with the video being released are those who wanted the story of Brown to be a "gentle giant" shot in the back by a white cop to be true. The release of the video was important to show the mindset of Brown and his disrespect for laws and his willingness to use his size to intimidate and rough people up and to force the media to take accountability for their feckless coverage of the incident.

    The best thing that could have happened was for the friend of the officer to give his account over the radio early on.

    It was because of that account that sent others not associated with the police department in Ferguson to study the coverage of witnesses loading coverage onto social media. It is in one of those videos loaded that the account of a witness in the background just minutes after the shooting occurred giving an account of what he saw just happen to match the officer's account. And mind you this is before any media or race baiter or the police department video release of the robbery involving Brown to taint their account in any way. It isn't hard to believe that others in the area share the same account. Currently, 57% of the people in the area believe the cop is guilty of wrongdoing. 43% do not.
    What is 'wrong' with them releasing the video is that it destroys that image of the cute soft puppy that those invested in making this a violent racial scene (and lets be clear...there are a LOT of 'they' and 'they' are in the media, on this site, out in the streets...'they' are white and black) tried to depict the victim as. It completely destroys the mental image they were trying to create that has people believing the unopposed visual that once there was this poor gentle kid who went to school and loved his mama and was going to go to college and cure polio...and the poor innocent tender little guy was just minding his own business when a eeeevil police man pulled up next to him and then tried to drag a 6'4"300 pound plus man onto his lap in the drivers seat through the drivers window and when that failed he got angry and came out of his car with his weapon drawn and executed the poor guy while he was on his knees with his hands up beggin the lawd please but no, the evil police man shot him from behind. Or...in front. Or...well...somewhere...you know...eyewitness accounts all are different. They DONT want you to see a guy who only moments before the incident committed a violent act of strong armed robbery and was capable of throwing around people not because they were harassing him but because they were trying to prevent him from robbing them.

    Its no different with the media blitz that came 45 days after the Trayvon Martin shooting. The narrative was cute little boy who was just soft and cuddly and....LOOK at these pictures of him...he's 12...he has cute little cheeks, and he....wait...what are you doing. Dont show those pictures! You cant show pictures of who he is TODAY. You cant show pictures from his own Facebook page or reveal that in fact he had a violent recent history and that he was suspended from school for breaking into peoples lockers. That doesnt jive with what we are trying to present. Thats not fair!

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