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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Hey, if they're both relevant, I'll take an alleged robbery which had nothing to do with why an otherwise innocent (in the eyes of the law) man killed over the demonstrated and proven cases of police brutality by the FPD.
    LOL, well, there ya go. You want past actions to count against the police and not against Brown. The reason I say that is because you want to declare Brown "otherwise innocent (in the eyes of the law)" but declare the police guilty in their past behavior.

    I used to live in Denver. If you do a google search on the Denver PD you will find a slew law suits they have had to pay out on. I say that to establish that I am not siding with the PD. I am not that naive. I have worked with Denver and Aurora PD, the FBI and BATF. I don't trust any of them, not one tiny bit.

    Let me propose another way of looking at it. Their past actions establishes a pattern and shows intent on both sides. I think there is a possibility that both sides may be at fault here. It wouldn't be the first time stupid met stupid and the results sucked.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And so she's not credible? My mistake. Quit posting the video as if she is a credible source and how she's being "reported" as accurate when in fact, she's probably the most biased source of accounts out there.
    The original video has now been taken down, but the video minutes after the shooting tells a very different story to the one the "witnesses" were portraying. You can hear the story building in the crowd about Brown being shot while he was surrendering, but at about the 6:20 mark you hear a conversation in the background between two men where one man is discussing what he saw, which is entirely different from the mob-sourced story. This witness corroborates most of the police account, and all of the account of the shooting itself. "Big Mike" turned and charged the officer and the officer shot "Big Mike".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And yet... the report and details on the shooting isn't coming from the police officer but from his department which has been shown to be corrupt. Do you disagree?
    Don't forget the unwitting witness in that youtube video! Also from Wilson's friend, although it is hearsay, so I'm not really counting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You just said that they don't do it. I asked you how you know. I'll wait for you to backup your claim or duck and dodge. Protocol is irrelevant to what a police officer does and we know this thanks to the many cases of police brutality that occur every year. So I'll wait for you tell us how you "knowing" that they don't do it is proof that he didn't do it.
    There is only one reason for a cop to pull a person actually towards the interior of a car. It isn't a smart thing to do, Cops don't do that UNLESS they are going to roll the window up on the person's arm to run them next to the car. It's a dirty trick like putting someone in a trunk and driving over curbs. If you pull someone into a car it gives them a lot more control than the person sitting in the car.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

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    LOL, well, there ya go. You want past actions to count against the police and not against Brown. The reason I say that is because you want to declare Brown "otherwise innocent (in the eyes of the law)" but declare the police guilty in their past behavior.
    He was otherwise innocent in the eyes of the law. The police officer did in fact belong to a corrupt organization. Do you dispute those facts? Yes or no? I don't care about your life in Denver.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    He was otherwise innocent in the eyes of the law. The police officer did in fact belong to a corrupt organization. Do you dispute those facts? Yes or no? I don't care about your life in Denver.
    I dispute that you have an open mind about the facts. I think you are going to see it however you want to see it regardless of the facts.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Don't hold your breath waiting. It won't happen. The same police department which had no problem in releasing a video of Michael Brown which it later admitted was irrelevant to the shooting (as it didn't even charge his supposed accomplice) isn't going to come out and show witness statements because those witnesses don't exist.



    That's how the game has been played hasn't it? Michael Brown being a suspect in alleged robbery is relevant isn't it? Why isn't the department's corruption?
    What was so wrong with releasing the video of Brown involved in a strong arm robbery after days of media coverage depicting Brown as this saintly "gentle giant". Where countless reports in the media reporting he was shot in the back by a white cop? Or other eyewitness accounts that stated he had surrendered and the white cop ruthlessly gunned him down. This became the clarion call for the race baiters like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and social welfare groups to ratchet up the rhetoric and whip the people into a frenzy on the basis of what appears to be lies as evidence is collected and forensics experts have a chance to do their job. The only people who had a problem with the video being released are those who wanted the story of Brown to be a "gentle giant" shot in the back by a white cop to be true. The release of the video was important to show the mindset of Brown and his disrespect for laws and his willingness to use his size to intimidate and rough people up and to force the media to take accountability for their feckless coverage of the incident.

    The best thing that could have happened was for the friend of the officer to give his account over the radio early on.

    It was because of that account that sent others not associated with the police department in Ferguson to study the coverage of witnesses loading coverage onto social media. It is in one of those videos loaded that the account of a witness in the background just minutes after the shooting occurred giving an account of what he saw just happen to match the officer's account. And mind you this is before any media or race baiter or the police department video release of the robbery involving Brown to taint their account in any way. It isn't hard to believe that others in the area share the same account. Currently, 57% of the people in the area believe the cop is guilty of wrongdoing. 43% do not.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use [W:302

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You have more information than I've seen - you know the sequence of shots and the stature/position of the "victim" during each?
    It's the nature of these emotion narratives. What little remains of the "I surrender" is pushed as unblemished truth even while the veracity of the rest of the statement has been falsified.
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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    He was otherwise innocent in the eyes of the law. The police officer did in fact belong to a corrupt organization. Do you dispute those facts? Yes or no? I don't care about your life in Denver.
    The officer has no history of corruption. In America we don't play the "guilt by association" game.

    The cop is also innocent right now. Constitution and all that. You've declared him guilty and Brown innocent. That's all well and good, but why don't we let the justice system decide?

    There has been corruption in our Federal government, among some elected reps, and some employees. By your logic, everyone in the Federal government is guilty of something.

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    Re: Private autopsy reportedly reveals Ferguson teen shot six times;police use more t

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    He was otherwise innocent in the eyes of the law. The police officer did in fact belong to a corrupt organization. Do you dispute those facts? Yes or no? I don't care about your life in Denver.

    Judging by the video footage of the strong arm robbery it looks like the victim and the witness were a little corrupt too.
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